Burbank Card Show-Vintage dealers?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Another Dallas, Vegas, Charlotte, Midwest Monster show catering to 95% modern

From what I hear from many collectors and dealers I speak with, most shows are this way. There are a few back east that are not overrun with the modern. Forget which I was told those are because I am not headed back east for a show.

I suppose if you are 1 of 10 in the room with vintage at a show as large as this one coming up, you can kill it...assuming the vintage collectors stay there long enough to find you.

[MR RAREBACK]

I agree, anyone with vintage is going to have a line at their table

[bcbgcbrcb]

Although it seems logical that it would be the case, I have found over and over again with my local card shows down here in FL that my being one of only a handful of vintage dealers at the usual 40-60 table shows down here mostly leads to me watching all of the other dealer tables with customers in front of them all day long and mine being primarily empty for most of the day. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Florida was judged to be the worst state in the U.S. when it comes to collecting vintage cards in person at card shows. During the 8+ years that we have been living down here, I have yet to see a show with a legitimate dealer count of 80+, maybe around 125 tables or so. Just traveling from one end of the state to the other can take 5-6 hours, to get to a top quality card show, probably tack on another 10 hours or so to the nearest one (Chantilly?)

Doesn’t Florida have the fastest growing population in the country over the past 20 years or so? Certainly not the vintage sportscard collecting population, that’s for sure.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Although it seems logical that it would be the case, I have found over and over again with my local card shows down here in FL that my being one of only a handful of vintage dealers at the usual 40-60 table shows down here mostly leads to me watching all of the other dealer tables with customers in front of them all day long and mine being primarily empty for most of the day. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Florida was judged to be the worst state in the U.S. when it comes to collecting vintage cards in person at card shows. During the 8+ years that we have been living down here, I have yet to see a show with a legitimate dealer count of 80+, maybe around 125 tables or so. Just traveling from one end of the state to the other can take 5-6 hours, to get to a top quality card show, probably tack on another 10 hours or so to the nearest one (Chantilly?)

Doesn’t Florida have the fastest growing population in the country over the past 20 years or so? Certainly not the vintage sportscard collecting population, that’s for sure.

Seems the So Cal market has not had nearly enough shows for the vintage collectors to realize there is no point in going to a show.

[Exhibitman]

Well, there's vintage and there's vintage. To most of us, vintage is prewar baseball. To a newb used to cards from 2020-present, 1970s-1980s-1990s is vintage, and other sports are more at the forefront. One newb at my table got very excited to see 1980s baseball and bought a bunch of HOFers. Another guy just cleaned out my 1970s football. I think I sold one prewar slab last time, so I am not bringing that stuff. As luck would have it owing to the last year of acquisitions, I have a lot of postwar, pre-1980 football, basketball and hockey, quite a bit of prewar nonports, a fantastic boxing accumulation, and a good amount of oddball cards and memorabilia (including a 1988 World Series Game 1 ticket), but other than the boxing and nonsports, it is 98% postwar, and 99% raw cards.

Chase: precisely. All of the pre-judging assumes that there are a variety of shows to not attend. We don't have any (well, there is that pathetic card corner at the Long Beach coin show), so when one comes along, I am there regardless.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Well, there's vintage and there's vintage. To most of us, vintage is prewar baseball. To a newb used to cards from 2020-present, 1970s-1980s-1990s is vintage, and other sports are more at the forefront. One newb at my table got very excited to see 1980s baseball and bought a bunch of HOFers. Another guy just cleaned out my 1970s football. I think I sold one prewar slab last time, so I am not bringing that stuff. As luck would have it owing to the last year of acquisitions, I have a lot of postwar, pre-1980 football, basketball and hockey, quite a bit of prewar nonports, a fantastic boxing accumulation, and a good amount of oddball cards and memorabilia (including a 1988 World Series Game 1 ticket), but other than the boxing and nonsports, it is 98% postwar, and 99% raw cards.

Chase: precisely. All of the pre-judging assumes that there are a variety of shows to not attend. We don't have any (well, there is that pathetic card corner at the Long Beach coin show), so when one comes along, I am there regardless.

I heard at one point that Long Beach show had a respectable card section. Wish I had known that had changed when I drove for what felt like a day and a half to get there. And good luck to you on the "modern" vintage you are taking to the show.

[Jewish-collector]

All shows (major, regional, small, mall, etc,...) are pretty much a majority of "shiny stuff". So, card shows have changed. It depends on your perspective, if it's better, worse or the same as before the pandemic.

[rackpack7272]

At the last Burbank show, I was able to make up a few post-war pickups (50s and 60s), but as Adam mentioned, not much pre-war. And there weren't many post-war (50s and 60s) commons if you're looking to set build. I'm not expecting that much better, but I'm hoping for the best. Either way, I'm looking forward to going to a big show

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Well, there's vintage and there's vintage. To most of us, vintage is prewar baseball. To a newb used to cards from 2020-present, 1970s-1980s-1990s is vintage, and other sports are more at the forefront.

Chase: precisely. All of the pre-judging assumes that there are a variety of shows to not attend. We don't have any (well, there is that pathetic card corner at the Long Beach coin show), so when one comes along, I am there regardless.

There is another "show" in the area, but I honestly think it's mostly modern. I haven't been there in many years so I can't say for sure. It's three days a week. The place is called Frank and Sons. The website says:

Frank & Son Collectible Show
17835 Gale Ave.
City of Industry, CA. 91748

Business Hours:
We are open 3 days a week:
Wednesday - 3pm to 9:00pm
Saturday - 9:am to 6:00 pm
Sunday - 10:am to 5:00 pm

With over 200 individual Vendors... We are your one stop shop for all your collectible needs. For that one special piece to start or finish your collection.... We have the finest vendors with the hottest and most unique collectibles under one roof.... What will you find here, you ask? Comic Books new and old from Marvel to DC... The hottest Hand-Painted Statues from Sideshow to Gentle Giant... Sports and Movie Memorabilia... Baseball Trading Cards and Gaming Cards.... New Age and Retro Video Games to Board Games.... Disney Trading Pins to Action Figures.... Hot Wheels to Barbie Dolls... G.I. Joe's to Hot Toys... Anime to Funko Pops...and much much more....

You get the idea.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Although it seems logical that it would be the case, I have found over and over again with my local card shows down here in FL that my being one of only a handful of vintage dealers at the usual 40-60 table shows down here mostly leads to me watching all of the other dealer tables with customers in front of them all day long and mine being primarily empty for most of the day. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Florida was judged to be the worst state in the U.S. when it comes to collecting vintage cards in person at card shows. During the 8+ years that we have been living down here, I have yet to see a show with a legitimate dealer count of 80+, maybe around 125 tables or so. Just traveling from one end of the state to the other can take 5-6 hours, to get to a top quality card show, probably tack on another 10 hours or so to the nearest one (Chantilly?)

Doesn’t Florida have the fastest growing population in the country over the past 20 years or so? Certainly not the vintage sportscard collecting population, that’s for sure.

Living in Palm Beach Gardens, I agree with Phil. Florida is where vintage goes to die, along with lots of older retirees. The recent WPB show at the beautiful Convention Center show was a joke. With all the boomers moving to Florida, what did they do with their vintage cards?

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

From what I hear from many collectors and dealers I speak with, most shows are this way. There are a few back east that are not overrun with the modern. Forget which I was told those are because I am not headed back east for a show.

I suppose if you are 1 of 10 in the room with vintage at a show as large as this one coming up, you can kill it...assuming the vintage collectors stay there long enough to find you.

I won't. I will make 1 pass of the area and if I see nothing but modern, I will just bolt and take my fat stacks with me. Not only that, I won't return for another 32 years, like I did since my last show there
I can't wait to go today and catch covid while I'm at it and smell ass all day