The future of Shohei Ohtani

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Last night's game was a perfect microcosm of their season - Ohtani pitches lights out, single-handedly ties up the game (IBB, SB, scores on a "no shift rule" single), and then their closer blows the game in epic fashion. Without Trout they are basically a one-man team

And with Trout they still have the same crappy bullpen. The problem with the team is the bullpen.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And with Trout they still have the same crappy bullpen. The problem with the team is the bullpen.

They have had 22 pitchers this year who have not started a game and arguably the best of the lot walks the first three batters on 14 pitches and then surrenders a grand slam to a fellow who is not exactly well known named Marlowe.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Well, the Angels are now 0-6 since the trade deadline. I wonder if their fans are starting to accept that not trading him when they could was a colossal blunder. Now they won't get anything for him!

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Well, the Angels are now 0-6 since the trade deadline. I wonder if their fans are starting to accept that not trading him when they could was a colossal blunder. Now they won't get anything for him!

I hope for their fans they play better down the stretch and at least make it competitive because as of now 7 games out of the WC with several teams in front of them.

And if they were hoping to convince him to stay this losing streak is not helping any.

[packs]

As mentioned, can you guys think of another instance in which a player having a historic year, like Ohtani is, was traded midway through the season?

Maris didn't get traded. The Yankees didn't trade Judge. Williams didn't get traded while hitting 400. Neither did Bill Terry. Denny McClain won 30 games for the Tigers. McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds, all not traded.

Can you think of anyone?

[Seven]

Originally Posted by packs

As mentioned, can you guys think of another instance in which a player having a historic year, like Ohtani is, was traded midway through the season?

Maris didn't get traded. The Yankees didn't trade Judge. Williams didn't get traded while hitting 400. Neither did Bill Terry. Denny McClain won 30 games for the Tigers. McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds, all not traded.

Can you think of anyone?

Maybe McGwire when he got traded from Oakland to St. Louis? He had 34 Homers through 105 games, and then went on a tear and came close to equaling Maris in 1997, when he finished with 58 homers, cumulatively.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Seven

Maybe McGwire when he got traded from Oakland to St. Louis? He had 34 Homers through 105 games, and then went on a tear and came close to equaling Maris in 1997, when he finished with 58 homers, cumulatively.

Don't think so. Griffey had 30 by the All Star break that year. McGwire had one extra home run. I have no recollection of a chase between him and Griffey.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Seven

Maybe McGwire when he got traded from Oakland to St. Louis? He had 34 Homers through 105 games, and then went on a tear and came close to equaling Maris in 1997, when he finished with 58 homers, cumulatively.

…..and they got straight up garbage in return for him.