Slabbed 1887 WS Kimball Baseball Sheet A42

bigfanNY · #1 06-23-2023, 03:46 PM

Previously you offered this album for sale and stated that PSA would slab AND GRADE the page. You also stated that the obvious high grade your page would get would increase the value by 6 to 7 X. I see that your statment was incorrect. Among a number of incorrect statments. The one that concerns me most personally was you stating that the Lebron James signed card you sold me was real. It was not and PSA agreed with me. And unlike most reputable sellers of autographs I recived a refund from you but you did not refund the cost of finding out you sold me a forgerie. An expensive lessen to find out another person integrity.

benjulmag · #2 06-24-2023, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Previously you offered this album for sale and stated that PSA would slab AND GRADE the page. You also stated that the obvious high grade your page would get would increase the value by 6 to 7 X. I see that your statment was incorrect. Among a number of incorrect statments. The one that concerns me most personally was you stating that the Lebron James signed card you sold me was real. It was not and PSA agreed with me. And unlike most reputable sellers of autographs I recived a refund from you but you did not refund the cost of finding out you sold me a forgerie. An expensive lessen to find out another person integrity.

What this highlights to me is that for items that are not eligible to receive numerical grades (which I assume is the case with this Kimball album page), grading companies should come up with a grade other than an "A". "A" grades have a stigma to them, because they are typically given to items that are either altered or suspected of being compromised in other significant ways. But for items where that is not the case, as with this Kimball page, an "A" grade gives one the false impression something important is wrong with the item.

steve B · #3 06-26-2023, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by benjulmag

What this highlights to me is that for items that are not eligible to receive numerical grades (which I assume is the case with this Kimball album page), grading companies should come up with a grade other than an "A". "A" grades have a stigma to them, because they are typically given to items that are either altered or suspected of being compromised in other significant ways. But for items where that is not the case, as with this Kimball page, an "A" grade gives one the false impression something important is wrong with the item.

It is altered, it was removed from the book it was part of.

Sadly, the entire book including the ribbon used as a binding was in the framed piece this is from. So the book could have easily been reassembled.

But ... Grading.... :-(

Exhibitman · #4 06-27-2023, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by benjulmag

What this highlights to me is that for items that are not eligible to receive numerical grades (which I assume is the case with this Kimball album page), grading companies should come up with a grade other than an "A". "A" grades have a stigma to them, because they are typically given to items that are either altered or suspected of being compromised in other significant ways. But for items where that is not the case, as with this Kimball page, an "A" grade gives one the false impression something important is wrong with the item.

CSG does that. I had two cards come back graded "AA" (Authentic Altered) and one come back graded "AU" (Authentic; it was a handcut card cut a little too close).

bigfanNY · #5 06-30-2023, 05:16 PM

For those that have been following the Thread on this piece on the main board I commented on the metal sign thread by the same OP Tom Rebert or Directly here on Net54. There are 2 other threads where Directly's comments don't pait a flatering picture. The first awhile back where he posts that he has sold all of his 1969 Football rack packs. The second more recent where he states that he sent some 1969 racks to TX to have mold cleaned of of them. Again as long as these things are disclosed not a big issue.( Although we all know that poorly stored unopened can absolutely cause condition issues) but if anyone here purchased any of those Racks please let us know the level the mold on the racks was disclosed.

Directly · #6 07-03-2023, 06:06 PM

Please note the owners sent the 50 or so FB Racks Packs to Memphis not Texas as BabyfanNY claims for a professional dry freeze process which they did a excellent job. If BabyfanNY cant get that little fact straight on this, we sure cant believe anything else he makes up----- Sorry I wasn't and still wont pay
you $3.00 return postage for the item, it wasn't in the deal------(Important note--I didn't sell any football Racks packs on this site, sold out on eBay Anyone else selling, bought them there! )

bigfanNY · #7 07-05-2023, 04:32 PM

You see you cant say things like I made stuff up without pointing out what you think I made up.

I said you Thomas Rebert sold a fake Lebron James Autographed card on Net54. I posted your listing and a picture of the card with the Fake autograph. Nothing made up just facts.

You posted that you had some 1969 Topps Football racks that you sent out to a professional to have Mold removed. Sorry if I got the state your Mold Freeze Dryer lives in wrong. I simply asked if it was disclosed to the buyers the original state of the racks and the work done to restore them. For 99% of Collectors here I wouldn't have to ask the question. Since you sold them on Ebay anyone with Worthpoint can look the sales up and find out the answer. No problem at all with freeze drying a Rack pack to remove Mold....As long as it is disclosed when you sell it. Again just facts nothing made up..
Just a warning to the community here how you do business. I not here to judge so I dont do things like call you names like Scumbag or Forger or thief. I just keep it to the facts.

Directly · #8 07-05-2023, 09:33 PM

A post from another member --Quote Sounds familiar. Last year I sent in three signed cards to PSA that I obtained myself at Spring Training about 25 years ago...all came back with questionable authenticity. There's not much that can be done at that point.it's your word against theirs. Waste of money indeed. another member submitted a Sparky Anderson he got in person PSA said questionable--

Your a idiot --just a warning to the readers, this guy is nuts--who said it was fake--who are you King Expert ?--Net 54 would be much better off without you!

This guy would buy the Brooklyn bridge for 100.00, then bitch because couldn't get a clear land title deed--this guy isn't a good asset here! --Why not just buy a Lebron on eBay--the collector that owns the card now, doesn't have a problem. TPG are a opinion--go get a booster Jab!

Wish I had a hundred more 1969 football Rack packs--for the readers here is a pack we opened to check the condition, they were sweet and gradable--and if you would have bought one, you would complain you only got 8 and 9's- why not get another hobby and bitch to them?

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