Identifying E101 and E102 purely by the front (E8, E78 tie in)

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by gabrinus

It was a Red Kleinow I bought from FKW...Jerry

Jerry, here it is. Still appreciate you letting me get it. And my Lobert labeled as an e102.

Rob, no idea if you have the Magee. From memory I think it last sold in LOTG years ago.

[G1911]

Not my card! - Here's a Wagner Menagerie (E26).

The Wagner and Lobert indicate the 3rd back type - Menagerie Gum at top, but no Dockman credit at bottom. i.e., another anonymous issue.

I believe there is a John McGraw like this too. I also assume that SGC just made up the E92 designation, because they don't know the E26 backs and assumed the Dockman ad version of that set who also made an E92 series, though these cards are not using that Dockman advertising version.

[G1911]

And to add - the three Menagerie backs can be seen here in Dan's gallery on the non-sport side: http://www.moviecard.com/gallery/ecards/e26_back.html

[RCMcKenzie]

Dj, I thought I posted it as a pick-up on here and we had a similar discussion to this thread. I'll check to see if I have the Magee.

[G1911]

Another possibly related card (again, not mine!); this is an E8 Battleship with the same E78 misaligned and upside down back as the Magee and the Young.

E8 is another anonymous issue. I am also attaching what an E8 back looks like, similar stepped checklist pattern that was used on a lot of the anonymous issues and by American Caramel as well in many of their sets.

I'm digging through my archive for that McGraw I could swear exists...

[G1911]

No McGraw in my photo archive, but found a Danny Murphy (Not my card either!). Again, this one clearly shows it is not a Dockman E26, but the second anonymous type back.

[x2drich2000]

Here are the menagerie and prize fighters I'm aware of.

Menagerie
- Bemis
- Kleinow - raw (poor)
- Lobert - SGC A
- McGraw - SGC 30
- Murphy - SGC 30
- Shean - BVG 1
- Wagner (batting) - SGC 40

Prizefighters
- Magee - SGC 40
- Young - SGC 30
- E8 U.S.S. Connecticut
- E8 U.S.S. Pennsylvania (Added 5/14/23)

Rob, maybe you did. I just don't remember.

[G1911]

Do you guys know the origin of these 3 groups (E26 Menagerie, E8 Battleships, and E78 Prize Fighters)? I would expect the examples within a particular wrong back came out into the hobby together originally.

[RCMcKenzie]

That E8 is neat and has the same miscut look of the Magee and Young on here.


I found it...