Hey, pennant guys

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Put aside resale value, this mid/late 60s Angels is one of the most beautiful pennants Trench ever made for any team, IMO. The artwork just screams 1960s.

Damn, Greg! That baby is minty mint! Like most of your stuff.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Damn, Greg! That baby is minty mint! Like most of your stuff.

I forget where I got it but, yeah, the original owner kept it stored in an atlas or something. I still have the pennants I owned as a 6-7 year old and they look almost shredded from years of being moved around and torn off walls …

[bocca001]

I know these pennants are rather new for this forum (and it may be too much football all at once), but I thought some of you may find them interesting. I won the Ronnie Lott on ebay last week. I collect 49ers pennants, but never even knew that this existed. I had seen the Montana before in a collection, but never for sale. I did a bunch of searching through worthpoint and came up with the following examples. All seem to be very, very rare, with each having, at most, two sales. They all say "1982 NFL Properties" on them.

I'm curious to know if anyone has any of these, if there are other players, etc.

I've also wondered if the 1982 strike somehow kept them off the market.

I also want Kyle to decide that he needs to figure out who made them and how they were sold. NFL properties did have catalogs and I have seen a sale for a 1982 catalog, but can't find one to look through.

I know that Kyle already posted about the player pennants from later in 90s. Those are common. These are something different.

[ooo-ribay]

The Ronnie Lott font screams “1980’s!” I’m thinking REO Speedwagon or Journey.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I know these pennants are rather new for this forum (and it may be too much football all at once), but I thought some of you may find them interesting. I won the Ronnie Lott on ebay last week. I collect 49ers pennants, but never even knew that this existed. I had seen the Montana before in a collection, but never for sale. I did a bunch of searching through worthpoint and came up with the following examples. All seem to be very, very rare, with each having, at most, two sales. They all say "1982 NFL Properties" on them.

I'm curious to know if anyone has any of these, if there are other players, etc.

I've also wondered if the 1982 strike somehow kept them off the market.

I also want Kyle to decide that he needs to figure out who made them and how they were sold. NFL properties did have catalogs and I have seen a sale for a 1982 catalog, but can't find one to look through.

I know that Kyle already posted about the player pennants from later in 90s. Those are common. These are something different.

Coincidentally, I had the 1982 catalog Mark referenced but they aren't included anywhere within the 159 page book.

I'm probably the only other person here interested enough to notice but there are subtle design differences in these pennants that make me wonder if these were maybe prototypes or samples. They are so rare they couldn't have been widely marketed.

Joe Ferguson and Harvey Martin seem like odd choices for a pennant series when there's no evidence of a Tony Dorsett, Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, Lawrence Taylor, Dan Fouts or any other bigger star of the early 80s.

The Too Tall and Harvey Martin each sold for over $130 in 2010, so somebody recognized their rarity.

Lastly, how bleak has eBay become that I'm this intrigued by 1980s pennants? I guess the vintage needle is moving for me.

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I’ve had three people contact me about the 1954 NY Giants pennant on ebay. It’s a fantasy and not a repro of anything that actually exists. The seller dropped the opening bid from $525 to $200, so I think he knows but isn’t disclaiming.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I’ve had three people contact me about the 1954 NY Giants pennant on ebay. It’s a fantasy and not a repro of anything that actually exists. The seller dropped the opening bid from $525 to $200, so I think he knows but isn’t disclaiming.

Yeah it’s a Mitchell and Ness circa 1998. I owned this when I first started collecting and bought a pile of these from their Philly store when they had one of their 50% off Super Bowl weekend sales. It actually looks like minor damage was intentionally inflicted on it to look old. The graphics on these don’t chip or crack but it kinda looks like it.

I don’t know of a vintage pennant with any text or date on the spine (besides the grommet pennants which have a fake spine).

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Yeah it’s a Mitchell and Ness circa 1998. I owned this when I first started collecting and bought a pile of these from their Philly store when they had one of their 50% off Super Bowl weekend sales. It actually looks like minor damage was intentionally inflicted on it to look old. The graphics on these don’t chip or crack but it kinda looks like it.

Yeah, mine is pristine. There are honest ebay sellers who just don’t know what they have and then there are scammers…

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I’ve had three people contact me about the 1954 NY Giants pennant on ebay. It’s a fantasy and not a repro of anything that actually exists. The seller dropped the opening bid from $525 to $200, so I think he knows but isn’t disclaiming.

And yeah, he knows. I told him and linked to a Huggins auction that said so.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I’ve had three people contact me about the 1954 NY Giants pennant on ebay. It’s a fantasy and not a repro of anything that actually exists. The seller dropped the opening bid from $525 to $200, so I think he knows but isn’t disclaiming.

I just noticed the clown seller is calling it a “scroll pennant.” All it’s missing is a scroll.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I just noticed the clown seller is calling it a “scroll pennant.” All it’s missing is a scroll.

His earlier response to me, after proving its origin to him:

“Read this listing it is 100% accurate. I have over $100,00 of t-206 to 1956 Topps PSA cards. And autograph of Baseball legends. I know the collection industry. Enough said.”