Unsolicited PM's Offering Consignment Services

Al C.risafulli · #1 01-19-2023, 04:42 PM

I'm really careful about it, but I do it. I try and not be spammy about it, and I try not to harp on it, and really don't just blindly reach out to people unless there's a specific thing I think LOTG could do a good job with.

BTW we are currently accepting consignments for our spring auction.

-Al

hcv123 · #2 01-19-2023, 07:38 PM

Been, I like to think a pretty active member here and do much more than selectively solicit private consignments, both publicly and privately (PM).

Luke · #3 01-19-2023, 07:51 PM

Like most things, it's a gray area. I'm sure Al's messages are few and respectful, and I'm sure there are other people who overdo it. There is always someone who can't read the room and ruins it for the people who are respectful.

Casey2296 · #4 01-19-2023, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke

Like most things, it's a gray area. I'm sure Al's messages are few and respectful, and I'm sure there are other people who overdo it. There is always someone who can't read the room and ruins it for the people who are respectful.

+1
I have no problem receiving a PM from reputable longtime members like Scott, Al, Howard, etc. it's just a communication among our tight knit community, much like me asking a member if they want to sell a card.

BTW, Al I have some E98's to send you for Spring Auction.

Eric72 · #5 01-19-2023, 08:17 PM

Here are my two cents, having gotten a few of these PMs throughout the years:

I don't mind when it's a frequent contributor to the board and/or a paid Net54 advertiser. There are plenty of great auction houses whose principals are on here regularly.

If someone tried to solicit consignments solely through PMs, though, that would be a bit shady. I haven't had that particular experience; however, I'd probably react poorly to their approach.

Johnny630 · #6 01-19-2023, 08:28 PM

If your good the people/consignments will come naturally to you.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #7 01-20-2023, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630

If your good the people/consignments will come naturally to you.

As much as I like the sentiment, I think every consignment director in the country would point out that there's a ton of work involved getting good consignments in.

Rhotchkiss · #8 01-19-2023, 08:28 PM

I don�t have an issue with it. Really, it�s not much different than sending an unsolicited offer to buy a card - it�s up to the recipient how to respond. That said, if it becomes harassment, then that�s a different story.

BobC · #9 01-19-2023, 08:44 PM

Howard, Scott, Al, and anyone else who's a long-time contributing site member that is also involved in an AH or in the industry otherwise, I am not saying anything negative about any of you at all. Quite the contrary, and if that was misunderstood by anyone, my apologies. You guys all look like you're jumping in to defend yourselves after my post, which you absolutely do not have anything to defend yourselves from, nor was it ever my intention or expectation that you should.

I specifically stated in my earlier post that I was against someone that was coming on Net54, that was NOT an advertiser and active, contributing member, and who was SOLELY using Net54 to make unsolicited offers to members on here. I had hoped my second paragraph in that earlier post made that point clear. If not, I am reiterating here again that I am against non-contributing and non-participating members, and otherwise those that don't properly pay to advertise on the site, to be contacting members looking for business in an unsolicited manner.

My third paragraph was more for the benefit of someone, like say Greg Morris Cards, that is an advertiser on the site, and a major consignee. I am not aware of Greg Morris, or anyone else who is affiliated with his company, being an ongoing and contributing Net54 member. But as a paid advertiser, I feel they do have certain rights and privileges as well. Someone who really isn't an ongoing and valuable, contributing Net54 community member, and/or a paid advertiser, should not IMO ever be able to just come on the site and lurk around waiting to make unsolicited offers for new business when they see an opportunity.

I trust that is crystal clear for everyone. And again, my apologies if there was any misunderstanding in what I was saying.

Gorditadogg · #10 01-19-2023, 09:26 PM

I just read the first sentence of Bob's post, but I think I agree with him.

For example, if Howard, Al or Scott wanted to contact me about the 1965 Topps PSA Near Set that I just posted, I would welcome their thoughts. I know those guys and respect them, and they have a pretty good idea about my collection too. I wouldn't want to restrict them at all from how they interact now, they are active contributors here and Net54 is better for it.

It would be different if some dude with 40 posts sent me a generic PM telling me he can consign my collection for me, just because he sees I've got a Very Nice! 1952 Bowman #101 Mantle PSA 4 for sale in the BST section. That kind of stuff is not a big deal now because it doesn't happen that often, and it's probably self-correcting for the most part. I don't really think anybody on this site is going to hand over their collection to someone they don't know, just because they get a spam message. So I expect the annoyance level on this will be low.

Just my 2 cents.

Fish · #11 01-19-2023, 10:45 PM

I�ve sent a couple PMs out in the past couple days to guys I think I may could assist sell their cards.

I�ve also made a few posts about it in a thread or 2. I never want to be overbearing, but I also am trying to build up my clientele and business.

My business is structured to tailor to sellers much like the ones on this sight and built on long lasting relationships with my sellers. I truly do think that the services I offer could be very helpful to some guys on Net54, but the issue is getting responses/interests.

I apologize if I offended anyone or broke the rules by sending those PMs, as it was all out of good faith and a true desire to help out vintage sellers!

Thank you,
Fisher

lowpopper · #12 01-20-2023, 01:19 AM

Sounds harmless if the messages are passive and low-pressure

skelly423 · #13 01-20-2023, 07:18 AM

My two cents. Legitimate businesses are fine, as are reputable members who actively participate. I got the message that�s being alluded to in the thread. The guy in question has virtually no post history. All he ever posts about is his consignment business. It stinks of a scam to me, and if it were up to me, I�d ban him from the forum.

oldjudge · #14 01-20-2023, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish

I�ve sent a couple PMs out in the past couple days to guys I think I may could assist sell their cards.

I�ve also made a few posts about it in a thread or 2. I never want to be overbearing, but I also am trying to build up my clientele and business.

My business is structured to tailor to sellers much like the ones on this sight and built on long lasting relationships with my sellers. I truly do think that the services I offer could be very helpful to some guys on Net54, but the issue is getting responses/interests.

I apologize if I offended anyone or broke the rules by sending those PMs, as it was all out of good faith and a true desire to help out vintage sellers!

Thank you,
Fisher

Since you responded maybe you could tell us what service you offer and, possibly as part of that, what value you add to the equation.

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