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Old 01-15-2023, 06:37 PM
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Sgc - 3
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The PSA has much nicer corners and gold edges, but it is also slightly out of focus. Not sure a) if that has any effect on the grading and b) if so, what the effect is on the grade….
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I can see the reasoning on the PSA grade, but have to say I personally feel the SGC is over graded by at least 1 full grade.

Many prefer a sliding scale for vintage grading. I would appreciate uniformity (granted this is a pipe dream as millions of cards have not followed this) between vintage, post war, modern, and ultra modern. What grade would you feel was deserved if a 2022 Mike Trout was in the same condition?

Before it’s brought up, I understand the normal effects of time, I just don’t mind a lower grade. What I don’t like is a million different standards.
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Default T205s

The grading companies are pretty lenient on T205's, it seems to me. Graded T205's almost always have that edge chipping, which is very distracting to the eye. When I first saw the 2 cards, I thought they were 3.5 (SGC) and 4 (PSA). I can see why others were expecting 2.5 to 3, because of the edge chipping. No way a modern card in that condition would get a 4!
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I was thinking it, but lacked the chutzpah to actually say it. PSA 4 it is, in spite of all the naysayers.

I’ll guess SGC 3 on the other side.

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Default The reveal

As Nicolo through his technical prowess already revealed the PSA grade, here are the cards with the grades intact.

This was a VERY interesting exercise to me. Particularly that there was actually a difference of opinion about which card deserves the higher grade!

To me as to most of the responders visually the PSA card appears about a grade better than the SGC card. I own the PSA card.

Would love to continue the discussion as to what factors led to your responses. What I see - PSA has stronger centering, PSA has stronger color, PSA has stronger edges (almost no chipping), PSA has slightly better corners. There was a comment about focus - I don't see a difference - others? The only thing I see that the SGC wins - it doesn't have the tiny print dot on Matty's nose that the PSA one has.

It came up as I was asked to trade The PSA for the SGC + cash. It was 8.5% in cash of what I was asking on the Matty. I refused the offer as to me whatever the #, my PSA card just has eye appeal a full grade higher than the SGC. So for those of you who see the PSA as nicer than the SGC - what would you figure to be a fair % premium if you were trading down to the SGC? Feel free to use numbers if easier. They are both Sovereign backs.
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