SGC-Incredible Turnaround Time!!!

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Maybe grading so fast because the volume is down and their labor force has increased. IDK

Some up to date October numbers.

Up 17%!!!

[Jay Wolt]

What impresses me is that the newcomer CSG has more submissions then SGC & Beckett combined

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

What impresses me is that the newcomer CSG has more submissions then SGC & Beckett combined

That relationship with Brent is paying off.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That relationship with Brent is paying off.

In a different post where someone had shown this same breakdown/info for an earlier month, I had asked what the two numbers that added up to CSG's total number of graded cards was, and thought I remember someone responded the first was for graded sports cards, and the second for other non-sports cards, like gaming cards. If true, it looks like CSG does a whole lot less sports card grading than they do non-sports cards. Now I don't know what the breakdown might be for SGC and Beckett between sports and non-sports, so is it possible that CSG actually still lags behind SGC (and possibly Beckett) after all when it comes to grading sports cards? And is PWCC really into and involved with non-sports cards? If not, and SGC (and possibly Beckett) really is outdoing CSG when it comes to grading sports cards, your statement may not be that accurate.

Also, is it known for certain that PWCC now only sends cards to be graded to CSG, and to no other TPGs at all? I don't go on their site and have no clue as to what they typically sell anymore, and if graded, which TPG(s) typically has/have graded cards being sold by them.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Does PWCC offer grading services for raw cards?
PWCC partners with Certified Collectibles Group (CCG) to provide PWCC clients with prioritized professional grading through CCG’s Certified Guarantee Company (CGC) and Certified Sports Guarantee (CSG) services. CCG is the parent company of CGC and CSG. PWCC has negotiated faster turnaround times and lower fees for PWCC clients through CCG.

What are the advantages of using CCG through PWCC?
Flat fee. Only $20 per card regardless of value, genre, or category. The program currently includes only 2.5 x 3.5 sized cards. The $20 fee includes shipping costs from PWCC to CCG and back to PWCC for sale in the Weekly Sunday Auction.
No upfront costs. After your CCG encapsulated card sells in PWCC’s Weekly Sunday Auction, we will deduct the $20 fixed grading cost from your proceeds.
10-day guarantee. CCG will grade cards within 10 days of receiving them.
Unlimited submissions. Submit unlimited cards. PWCC strongly recommends you submit cards with at least a $100 value to ensure you maximize your profits. For example, if you submit a card that sells for $20, you will net $0 since you will pay $20 for the CCG grading process. If you submit cards that sell for less than $20, you will wind up with a negative balance. If we determine that the cards you submit will not cover the cost of grading when they sell, we reserve the right to return your submission to you without sending it for grading. Using the $100 per card estimate as a guide will help ensure a positive and worthwhile selling experience.
No paperwork. Forget the forms. PWCC will handle the entire process with CCG. You will only need to follow the submission process on PWCC’s website.
CCG to PWCC Weekly. CCG will send your cards directly to PWCC. PWCC will queue them for an upcoming Weekly Sunday Auction when they arrive. It is that simple.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobC

In a different post where someone had shown this same breakdown/info for an earlier month, I had asked what the two numbers that added up to CSG's total number of graded cards was, and thought I remember someone responded the first was for graded sports cards, and the second for other non-sports cards, like gaming cards. If true, it looks like CSG does a whole lot less sports card grading than they do non-sports cards. Now I don't know what the breakdown might be for SGC and Beckett between sports and non-sports, so is it possible that CSG actually still lags behind SGC (and possibly Beckett) after all when it comes to grading sports cards? And is PWCC really into and involved with non-sports cards? If not, and SGC (and possibly Beckett) really is outdoing CSG when it comes to grading sports cards, your statement may not be that accurate.

Also, is it known for certain that PWCC now only sends cards to be graded to CSG, and to no other TPGs at all? I don't go on their site and have no clue as to what they typically sell anymore, and if graded, which TPG(s) typically has/have graded cards being sold by them.

I think PWCC also has or had a deal with Beckett.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think PWCC also has or had a deal with Beckett.

I don't hear much about them since they got shown the door off Ebay. Are they still a force to be reckoned with?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I don't hear much about them since they got shown the door off Ebay. Are they still a force to be reckoned with?

They still sell a lot on their own platform.

While there’s no statistics that I know of to evaluate whether they have waxed or waned in their volume and activity, my sense is that they have lost a bit of action since moving off of eBay. At the same time, they still seem to continue to do pretty brisk business on high end pieces through their monthly premier auction. And if you’re willing to put forth the effort to dig around every week, there are plenty of items on their weekly auction as well.

Not sure if that makes them a force to be reckoned with. But they’re definitely not nothing.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by BobC

Also, is it known for certain that PWCC now only sends cards to be graded to CSG, and to no other TPGs at all? I don't go on their site and have no clue as to what they typically sell anymore, and if graded, which TPG(s) typically has/have graded cards being sold by them.

Just a wild guess but I would think that PWCC is still using SGC and PSA because they are a retail entity and their business model is to get the most they can for their listings. I am sure in both instances it is someone else submitting the material to SGC and PSA for them.

Whatever deal they have with CSG and Beckett is simply a service they are offering consignors. I know that SGC cards typically sell for a discount to a PSA counterpart so I would assume that CSG sells for a discount to SGC but I do not follow sales of CSG product so I could be entirely wrong.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Just a wild guess but I would think that PWCC is still using SGC and PSA because they are a retail entity and their business model is to get the most they can for their listings. I am sure in both instances it is someone else submitting the material to SGC and PSA for them.

Whatever deal they have with CSG and Beckett is simply a service they are offering consignors. I know that SGC cards typically sell for a discount to a PSA counterpart so I would assume that CSG sells for a discount to SGC but I do not follow sales of CSG product so I could be entirely wrong.

Hey Chase,

Was sort of thinking the same thing, and why I posed the question. Never been on PWCC's site, so don't really know what they're selling the most of these days, and who's grading the bulk of it. Is it a proven fact though that PWCC does not submit cards to SGC and PSA directly, only through a third party? And if so, is that PWCC's choice, or is it because PSA and SGC refuse to take business from PWCC directly? I've never heard of any rumors that some TPGs would no longer accept PWCC submissions.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by BobC

Hey Chase,

Was sort of thinking the same thing, and why I posed the question. Never been on PWCC's site, so don't really know what they're selling the most of these days, and who's grading the bulk of it. Is it a proven fact though that PWCC does not submit cards to SGC and PSA directly, only through a third party? And if so, is that PWCC's choice, or is it because PSA and SGC refuse to take business from PWCC directly? I've never heard of any rumors that some TPGs would no longer accept PWCC submissions.

Hi Bob,

I had heard or read that PSA and SGC cut ties with PWCC but if someone told me I was mistaken I would not be shocked. Seems reasonable enough to me that they would want to distance themselves from PWCC but I really have not paid that close attention to the matter since I never shop with them. Like you, I have never been on their website.


Chase

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

What impresses me is that the newcomer CSG has more submissions then SGC & Beckett combined

I didn't realize Beckett was that small. Have they lost a ton of business over the last few years? I know they used to be the king of modern cards.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I didn't realize Beckett was that small. Have they lost a ton of business over the last few years? I know they used to be the king of modern cards.

Down 18 percent just this one month. I think one can probably fairly extrapolate a big loss over the last few years.

[lowpopper]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

What impresses me is that the newcomer CSG has more submissions then SGC & Beckett combined

CSG numbers may include ebay authentic guarantee

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

CSG numbers may include ebay authentic guarantee

Greg the graph stated "Items Graded" so it can be legit
In October they offered 20% off their fees & their fees were the lowest in the industry to begin with.

I've never submitted w/ CSG but I like their slab & hope they continue to prosper, which will keep PSA/SGC/BGS on their toes

[Leon]

I gave CSG 25 prewar cards to grade yesterday. I hope they become at least #2 in the hobby...
And they are a ton less expensive than the others. No value limitations. So my orange border Cobby...was 15 bucks to be graded. It's definitely only AUT so why would I want to pay more!

edited to add, I think they have changed their pricing structure now, but still a good deal.
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