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Old 11-02-2022, 07:43 PM
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Kevvyg1026 found this one, Tribe Hill Aces is to the right of Ted Davidson on the 4x Felix Mantilla row which makes the first four cards of the row Mantilla - Alvis - Davidson - Tribe Hill Aces, and it also puts Leo Durocher as the fourth card and Gerry Arrigo as the fifth card in the 3x Pirates Rookie Stars row because Durocher is above Tribe Hill Aces.
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#459 Senators Rookie Stars (Dick Bosman) is to the right of Sam Bowens, every single #459 Senators Rookie Stars has a stray black ink dot in the same identical spot as the stray black dot on the card to the right of the miscut Bowens card. That means there is a five card consecutive run of Jim Landis-Orlando Martinez-Bill Mazeroski-Sam Bowens-Senators Rookie Stars in the missing six slots of the Felix Mantilla row, Tommie Reynolds is almost certainly the missing sixth card either to the left of Landis or to the right of the Senators Rookie Stars card.
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Old 11-22-2022, 09:22 PM
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I was searching through the Variations thread for a different reason when I stumbled upon two 1967 Topps 6th Series cards with miscut backs on page 40 post #1962 submitted by Elberson. One of them is a key card that I need to know who is to the right of, #463 Tribe Hill Aces. I suspected that it had to be either Tommie Reynolds or Jim Landis. It is definitely not Landis, but after blowing up the scan it appears to be a perfect match for Reynolds. That means the 4x Mantilla row is complete with Mantilla-Alvis-Davidson-Tribe Hill Aces-Reynolds-Landis-Martinez-Mazeroski-Bowens-Senators Rookie Stars (Bosman)-Horton. That now makes two of the three 4x rows complete, I still need to place four more cards on the 4x Gary Bell row.
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Old 11-23-2022, 07:10 AM
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Outstanding detective work!

I'm keeping score at home, and from following this thread, I show the following 6th series cards as yet to have either a right or left side mate identified, in other words in terms of their row placements, they're complete islands to themselves. If any have been placed, even on one side, please advise:

Barton, Shaw, Adair, Twins Rookies, Clemons, Indians Rookies, Griffith, Helms, Burgess, Lopez, Stephenson, Tigers Rookies, Alou

Also, the longest section of a single row, without knowing the whole row, stands at: Coombs/Rigney/Wert/McCovey - yes?

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Old 11-23-2022, 08:58 AM
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Just to chime in here as a '67 collector - but not someone who is going to have the time to do this type of detective work - kudos and bravo to all of you for what you are doing in trying to reconstruct these sheets. I know which cards are more difficult mainly based on price tag in the 7th series. Though I have nailed down a good number of the HOF cards out of this set already, I have a ways to go with commons and 7th series.

Excuse me for being a pinecone, but what is a "slit" - is that just a row on the sheet?
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Old 11-23-2022, 10:05 AM
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Just to chime in here as a '67 collector - but not someone who is going to have the time to do this type of detective work - kudos and bravo to all of you for what you are doing in trying to reconstruct these sheets. I know which cards are more difficult mainly based on price tag in the 7th series. Though I have nailed down a good number of the HOF cards out of this set already, I have a ways to go with commons and 7th series.

Excuse me for being a pinecone, but what is a "slit" - is that just a row on the sheet?
A slit is one of the two 132 card sheets that were printed together at one time in a huge 264 card sheet that was then cut in half to make two separate sheets that were then cut by machine, the left one would be Slit A and the right one would be Slit B. A row is the horizontal 11 cards in a certain 'row' identified by whoever the lead card card, for example the Tony Perez row of the 1967 Topps 6th Series. A vertical "row' of cards is described as a column.
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Old 11-23-2022, 10:23 AM
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Outstanding detective work!

I'm keeping score at home, and from following this thread, I show the following 6th series cards as yet to have either a right or left side mate identified, in other words in terms of their row placements, they're complete islands to themselves. If any have been placed, even on one side, please advise:

Barton, Shaw, Adair, Twins Rookies, Clemons, Indians Rookies, Griffith, Helms, Burgess, Lopez, Stephenson, Tigers Rookies, Alou

Also, the longest section of a single row, without knowing the whole row, stands at: Coombs/Rigney/Wert/McCovey - yes?
Clemens is next to Perez, the second card in the Perez row. The Bell row has Bell-Burgess-Coombs-Rigney-Wert-McCovey-?-?-?-?-Ribant. These aren't confirmed, but Kevvyg1026 and I currently have Lachemann and the Giants Team card in the 4 and 5 slots of the Bob Miller row, the Dodgers Team card, McFarlane, Indians Rookie Stars in the 8, 9, and 10 slots of the Gary Bell row, Shaw, McCarver, and the Braves Team card in the 4, 5, 6 slots of the Brooks Robinson Checklist row, Ortega in the 10 slot of the Brooks Robinson Checklist row, Twins Rookie Stars and Cloninger in the 4 and 5 slots of the Tony Perez row, Durocher and Arrigo in the 4 and 5 slots of the Pirates Rookie Stars row. Unfortunately we have nothing on Barton, Adair, Griffith, Helms, Stephenson, or the Pirates Team card yet but we have no doubt they are 3x cards. We have combos of Zimmerman-Dierker, Killebrew-Tolan, King-Campaneris-Gabrielson with Lopez above Gabrielson, Houk-Werhas that are somewhere in the 3x rows. Felipe Alou and Tigers Rookie Stars are the mystery cards, they both have quantities that would qualify both as 4x but there is only space for one more 4x if we have everything correct. I would love to know who is to the right of Willie McCovey but nothing has shown up yet. We currently have the four cards missing in the Gary Bell row as slot 7 unknown (possibly Alou, Tigers Rookie Stars, or Indians Rookie Stars, slot 8 Dodgers Team card, slot 9 McFarlane, slot 10 either Indians Rookie Stars or Tigers Rookie Stars (it has to be a Rookie Stars card because the card above it, Jose Santiago. has a Rookie Stars card under it).
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Old 11-24-2022, 11:04 AM
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These are a few more 67 6th Series miscut back scans that I got from member Elberson, nothing new but it confirms Clemens is to the right of Perez, Wert is to the right of Rigney, and the Marichal Checklist is on the right edge of the sheet.
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Old 12-07-2022, 09:34 PM
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I found the position of one of the two mystery cards that I figured might be the final unknown 4x card, #526 Tigers Rookie Stars is actually the last card on the 3x Bob Miller row. That means the other mystery card, #530 Felipe Alou, is probably the final 4x card on the Gary Bell row in the 7 slot between Willie McCovey and the Dodgers Team card. I am going by the quantities that #530 Felipe Alou is available on eBay and other sites but it can't be confirmed until some proof shows up.
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