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Old 11-01-2022, 08:37 AM
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I'm going to play devils advocate here on the trio of 1914 CJ's which ended last night on Ebay.

Since Ebay does not charge a buyers premium, if factoring in the 20% juice that would have been added on top of these prices if sold through an AH these actually weren't that far off.

The Psa 5 Jax from last night if a 20% BP were added would have been $126,120.00

The last Psa 5 Jax which sold for $240,000.00 was far superior to this example and was centered which many pay way up for these days. Now we can debate if it was $100K+ nicer, but it was nicer nonetheless. Prior to this $240K spike the last sell for a Psa 5 Jax was $116,400 on 8/8/21.

The Psa 4 Cobb from last night if a 20% BP were added would have been $59,721.60.

The last Psa 4 Cobb which sold (this exact card actually) ended at $58,800.00 on 8/15/21.

The Sgc 2 Matty from last night if a 20% BP were added would have been $61,920.00.

The last Sgc 2 Matty which sold (this exact card actually) ended at $64,156.40 on 8/28/21.

Just my two cents
Adding 20% makes no sense. I think those bidding $100-300k can figure out what they want to pay and do the math.
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Old 11-01-2022, 09:39 AM
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Adding 20% makes no sense. I think those bidding $100-300k can figure out what they want to pay and do the math.
Sounds like a return to our earlier thread about the juice!

Congrats to 3-2 count for stirring it back up to top of mind for us.
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Old 11-01-2022, 09:55 AM
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Did a Net54 member end up winning the CJ Jackson? I am dying to know what bid would have sniped it had I put one in at the last minute. I assumed the card would end up in the $145K+ range, especially when it hit $105K with a few hours left. So, I casually watched it Halloween night and checked back about 3 mins after it closed. If the buyer had a bid up to $140K, glad I saved him $25K. But, if he was bowing out at $108K, really sad I didn't take the auction more seriously. I am not positive I could have hit submit at $121K, but right now I feel remorse I didn't go for it.
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Old 11-01-2022, 10:04 AM
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Did a Net54 member end up winning the CJ Jackson? I am dying to know what bid would have sniped it had I put one in at the last minute. I assumed the card would end up in the $145K+ range, especially when it hit $105K with a few hours left. So, I casually watched it Halloween night and checked back about 3 mins after it closed. If the buyer had a bid up to $140K, glad I saved him $25K. But, if he was bowing out at $108K, really sad I didn't take the auction more seriously. I am not positive I could have hit submit at $121K, but right now I feel remorse I didn't go for it.
Either way, the seller wishes you had bid like there's no tomorrow.
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Old 11-01-2022, 10:14 AM
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Sounds like a return to our earlier thread about the juice!

Congrats to 3-2 count for stirring it back up to top of mind for us.
You're welcome. Always glad to help!
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Old 11-01-2022, 10:21 AM
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So, to Tony and Ryan’s points…I agree with both of you that eBay isn’t the best place to maximize sales for high end cards. If you apply this PSA 5 Jjax ebay sale last night to an auction scenario, it would have ended / hammer price at about 87k plus the juice…that would likely have looked pretty appealing to someone during extended bidding. I’m not a fan of auctions myself…but I do like to watch them. I consider the big three (Jackson, Cobb and Matty) 1914 CJs to be blue chip cards. I also feel like it is so tough to actually see the cards via the ebay photos…too much dependence on just going with the assigned grade…
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Old 11-01-2022, 10:39 AM
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I am totally in agreement that Ebay was not the best platform to offer these on.

It no doubt came into play and is reflected in their final hammer prices.

BP included or not
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Old 11-01-2022, 10:42 AM
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A lot of people won’t bid unless they have consignments in play to offset having to write a big check (or PayPal, etc). I know a couple of fairly wealthy collectors that won’t get real aggressive on big ticket items unless they’re “trimming some fat” at the same time.

Also - as I have learned over 25 years of buying/selling - the more you spend on an item the more you can lose.
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Old 11-01-2022, 11:34 AM
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I was surprised at the CJ prices last night...but, that PSA 5 Jax was overgraded.

Also, I find that eBay auctions that end on a holiday usually end lower; many people out, not paying attention. I remember years ago winning a card on eBay on New Years Eve...went much lower than market value. So I truly think that also played a factor.
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Old 11-01-2022, 12:35 PM
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I was surprised at the CJ prices last night...but, that PSA 5 Jax was overgraded.
When compared to the last example which sold for $240K, it sure was Michael.

But hey, its not like I'd mentioned that previously anywhere
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Old 11-06-2022, 01:19 AM
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high grade is not always a criterion. anything that has wide trade value proven to acquire value steadily is blue chip
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Nice looking, top tier HOF'ers, from mainstream sets are generally blue chip.

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Agreed that a card does not need to be high grade to be a blue chip.

That's a nice Cy Leon. Blue chip all the way for sure.

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BLUE chips
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Old 11-08-2022, 06:19 PM
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the 48 Leaf Jackie should be in there as well
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Old 11-09-2022, 08:16 AM
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Another couple of examples of what I consider to be blue chip cards. Perhaps this is why my car is a 20+ year old Toyota Corrode-lla.

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