One Man’s Opinion

[Snapolit1]

Barry Bonds was intentionally walked 120 times in 2004. But please keep telling me about how unfair it is for Judge. Last time I checked he was intentionally walked 12 times.

Oh yeah, and Bonds was intentionally walked with the bases loaded.

Poor Yankees never get a break.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Re: Arraez, I seem to recall some similar shenanigans by the Mets the year Jose Reyes won the batting title.

[JollyElm]

This is what it looks like today (FWIW, he has fewer games played/at-bats than the 2nd-4th place hitters)...

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The OP is dead on. Get off the bench and earn that title!!!

[Johnny630]

Ted Williams would Insist to be in every game until the end of the season. Respect the game Luis Arraez.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Ted Williams would Insist to be in every game until the end of the season. Respect the game Luis Arraez.

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[nolemmings]

He's got a seven game hitting streak with multi-hits in 4 of the last 5 and is batting .355 over that stretch. So yeah, I'm sure he was scared of a rookie pitcher who got sent down after today's game.

[G1911]

Name Year, IBB/BB
Ruth 1921, ?/145
Ruth 1927, ?/137
Mantle 1961, 9/126
Maris 1961, 0/94
McGwire 1998, 28/162
Sosa 1998, 14/73
Bonds 2001, 35/177
Judge 2022, 12/110

I do not see how Judge is evidence that the game has become 'gutless' because he gets walked a lot. This has been true for people in his position for the last century. I am not a fan of much of the modern game and watch less than 10 games a season now, but data > narratives.

[oldjudge]

I mean the lefty (Arraez is lefty so a bad matchup) who held the Twinkies to two hits in 4 2/3 innings.

[nolemmings]

Again, a rookie pitcher. I'm sure they were worried that Arraez couldn't hit him.

Maybe Judge should just take care of business. Getting one hit the final weekend of the season and striking out 6 of your 7 official ABs does not exactly scream batting champ.

[sbfinley]

I’m just shocked that Rocco Baldelli still has a job if he’s got a 25 year old 1B filling out the line up card for him.

[nolemmings]

Luis has been ouchy with a hamstring for a little while now. This from the Pioneer Press today:

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Barry Bonds was intentionally walked 120 times in 2004. But please keep telling me about how unfair it is for Judge. Last time I checked he was intentionally walked 12 times.

Oh yeah, and Bonds was intentionally walked with the bases loaded.

Poor Yankees never get a break.

He hasn’t gotten a lot of what is scored as an intentional walk. He has been walked a lot by pitchers who won’t throw strikes. The end result is the same but the scoring is different. Let’s also not compare a juicer to a clean player. I wouldn’t care if Judge played for the Red Sox or the Astros, I would feel the same way. Baseball has become a gutless sport.

[oldjudge]

Amazing how that hammy feels better against certain pitchers.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

He hasn’t gotten a lot of what is scored as an intentional walk. He has been walked a lot by pitchers who won’t throw strikes. The end result is the same but the scoring is different. Let’s also not compare a juicer to a clean player. I wouldn’t care if Judge played for the Red Sox or the Astros, I would feel the same way. Baseball has become a gutless sport.

Agreed Jay. Judge isn't getting intentionally walked a lot but he is getting unintentionally walked all the time. It's the same thing. He's getting crap to swing at because of gutless managers and pitchers that don't want to be in the record books as the guy that gave up number 62.

[jakebeckleyoldeagleeye]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Agreed Jay. Judge isn't getting intentionally walked a lot but he is getting unintentionally walked all the time. It's the same thing. He's getting crap to swing at because of gutless managers and pitchers that don't want to be in the record books as the guy that gave up number 62.

Gee he's only struck out 173 times. Guess they were all bad pitches.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by jakebeckleyoldeagleeye

Gee he's only struck out 173 times. Guess they were all bad pitches.

He constantly gets low balls called strikes on him and he is right to not swing at them because they are balls. That is contributing to his strikeouts. I watch every Yankee game and every Judge at bat and this has been a problem for years. He gets strikes to swing at and strikes out too, but they aren't pitching to him in general. You must not be watching the games.



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[skelly423]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

He hasn’t gotten a lot of what is scored as an intentional walk. He has been walked a lot by pitchers who won’t throw strikes. The end result is the same but the scoring is different. Let’s also not compare a juicer to a clean player. I wouldn’t care if Judge played for the Red Sox or the Astros, I would feel the same way. Baseball has become a gutless sport.

Bonds had plenty of unintentional intentional walks where the catcher didn't hold the arm out, but there were four pitches that never came within a foot of the plate. Juiced or not, what Bonds faced was orders of magnitude worse than the treatment Judge is getting from pitchers.

[ALBB]

Like someone else said..been going on in baseball for a very long time.

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

He hasn’t gotten a lot of what is scored as an intentional walk. He has been walked a lot by pitchers who won’t throw strikes. The end result is the same but the scoring is different. Let’s also not compare a juicer to a clean player. I wouldn’t care if Judge played for the Red Sox or the Astros, I would feel the same way. Baseball has become a gutless sport.

Yeah cause they never pitched around binds without intentionally walking him. What bs. I am loving the new rational Steve. Not sure where he was years ago but he is certainly accurate here for calling out this bs. Oh poor Aaron crap.

[nolemmings]

As for Home Run records--- Omedetou gozaimasu Munetaka Murakami (with apologies if I have the wrong expression or grammar)

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...egular-season/

[Exhibitman]

What happened to Bonds is irrelevant; it is the same faulty logic as saying that because I was hazed when pledging a frat, my kid has to accept being hazed too. Each scenario should be judged on its merits. That said, the teams playing a hot player's team have the right to employ whatever strategies they like. If they are playing percentages, walking Judge as a matter of course makes no sense. Bill James ran a scenario with what would happen if teams just walked Babe Ruth every time at bat and the results were far worse for the opponent than pitching to him. The other players on MLB teams aren't exactly dweebs, and putting a man on base every time the #3 spot bats causes far more problems than it is worth. Also, if they feel Judge is pressing, the smart way to work him is off the plate. Worst case, he walks. Best case, he chases bad pitches and negates his own power by hitting bad balls or striking out within the extra-large strike zone he has created. Now, you could not do that with Yogi Berra. He feasted on pitches out of the zone.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

He hasn’t gotten a lot of what is scored as an intentional walk. He has been walked a lot by pitchers who won’t throw strikes. The end result is the same but the scoring is different. Let’s also not compare a juicer to a clean player. I wouldn’t care if Judge played for the Red Sox or the Astros, I would feel the same way. Baseball has become a gutless sport.

That is what you call baseball. What planet do you live on when you don,t pitch carefully around a slugger. You want your pitchers to throw fast balls down the middle?

[oldjudge]

How do you not play Judge today and give him a shot at the triple crown? The Yankees have a first round bye so he will get plenty of rest whether he plays today or not. The only reason I could see is if he has a minor injury but there is no report of anything like that.

[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Barry Bonds was intentionally walked 120 times in 2004. But please keep telling me about how unfair it is for Judge. Last time I checked he was intentionally walked 12 times.

Oh yeah, and Bonds was intentionally walked with the bases loaded.

Poor Yankees never get a break.

+1!!

[Fred]

Speaking of Ted Williams. He didn't sit the last day of the season in 1941. He was at .3995 (round up to .400). He could have sat the last day but said he didn't want to back into .400. Last day there was a double header and he went 6 for 8 and didn't back into the .400 average.

With Arraez, if he's legitimately hurt, then you really can't hold it against him. What would be really cool is Judge just started a mini hot streak and won the batting title outright. It'd be one thing if he was intentionally walked every at bat, but that's not what's happening. Perhaps Triple Crown is on his mind and he's pressing a little bit. He's got a few games to turn it around. Cross your fingers (even if you're a Yankee hater, you gotta like the kid). Maybe in that time he'll get that 62nd HR and a triple crown. If he doesn't it won't be that bad, tied with Maris for the Yankee season HR record is pretty cool. 61 clean round trippers. Not a bad year.

[nolemmings]

I hope Judge hits #62 tomorrow, and gets 2 or more hits in the remaining games, putting the pressure on Arraez. Despite some of my harshness in this thread, I do not root against the Yankees or any Yankee-- not even Boggs, Clemens and Damon, who I consider to be psuedo-Yankees.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

I hope Judge hits #62 tomorrow, and gets 2 or more hits in the remaining games, putting the pressure on Arraez. Despite some of my harshness in this thread, I do not root against the Yankees or any Yankee-- not even Boggs, Clemens and Damon, who I consider to be psuedo-Yankees.

Agree with Todd. I hope Judge succeeds too, but that's on him. He needs to perform. Period. I can't say that I'm entranced by how Arraez is doing it, but that's probably (hopefully) Baldelli's call, not his.

In any event, Todd's right. If Judge takes care of his own business, it doesn't matter what Arraez does. Great year for Judge, but maybe not a Triple Crown year. And that's OK. That's why they keep statistics and people get to argue about them after the fact. Not the first time, won't be the last that this type of thing has happened. Its all good. We will all make it through this.

[RCMcKenzie]

Yuli Gurriel must be relishing his last days of reigning 2021 batting king. I watch a lot of baseball, and I had to look up the Twins guy, and the Mets guy in the NL. Who are those guys?

[Directly]

Anyone want to estimate (if possible) what Judge might expect in dollars for his next contract and with whom ? If he is looking for a new Agent--I'm available --LOL

[Bobbycee]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Yuli Gurriel must be relishing his last days of reigning 2021 batting king. I watch a lot of baseball, and I had to look up the Twins guy, and the Mets guy in the NL. Who are those guys?

Ughhhh, I guess you're not watching enough Baseball???