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Old 09-09-2022, 03:36 PM
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I guess a lot of people assume his legal troubles are over and trust him otherwise. Interesting how this has played out.
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I guess a lot of people assume his legal troubles are over and trust him otherwise. Interesting how this has played out.
Most of them simply ignored the fraud ring in the first place, then came to defend them once it was old news (like our last go around on PWCC). They don't seem to have ever stopped trusting him even as Blowout exposed clear and compelling evidence.

Why one would choose to store their cards with a known fraud ring will never make sense to me; it's not like PWCC is the only vault in the game. You can dodge taxable sales with others too.
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Most of them simply ignored the fraud ring in the first place, then came to defend them once it was old news (like our last go around on PWCC). They don't seem to have ever stopped trusting him even as Blowout exposed clear and compelling evidence.

Why one would choose to store their cards with a known fraud ring will never make sense to me; it's not like PWCC is the only vault in the game. You can dodge taxable sales with others too.
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Most of them simply ignored the fraud ring in the first place, then came to defend them once it was old news (like our last go around on PWCC). They don't seem to have ever stopped trusting him even as Blowout exposed clear and compelling evidence.

Why one would choose to store their cards with a known fraud ring will never make sense to me; it's not like PWCC is the only vault in the game. You can dodge taxable sales with others too.
Are his rates/terms/logistics better maybe? I have no idea.
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Theoretically Could the Vault be used as a front by the house to get whatever price they want on whatever card they seem fit? Just keep relisting it.
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Theoretically Could the Vault be used as a front by the house to get whatever price they want on whatever card they seem fit? Just keep relisting it.
Certainly if an auction house owns an item that is being listed in their own auction, it makes you wonder about whether they might be tempted to approach the auction differently than if they're merely listing the item on behalf of another owner.
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Theoretically Could the Vault be used as a front by the house to get whatever price they want on whatever card they seem fit? Just keep relisting it.
Sounds a lot like some of what PWCC has done in the past. It wasn’t the card altering that got them kicked off eBay; eBay publicly announced (they must have been absolutely confident beyond a doubt to do that) it was their shill bidding operation.

The real shock would be if PWCC doesn’t shill and fake results for certain items they want to hype and promote legit transactions of to collect fees on without having to even ship or move the card.
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