CSG status

[rugbymarine]

I just purchased my first CSG slab recently. High grade, modern-ish basketball. I was impressed with the slab, and the accuracy of the grade. The cards cost about 20% of the same grade in a PSA holder.

In the interest of 'buy the card, not the holder', I've been adding CSG to my searches and would feel comfortable buying them. In my mind, if I can acquire cards I'm looking for at a significant discount, I'll certainly consider it.

I will say that since they aren't as established as a grading company, I spend a lot more time zooming in on cards to see if the grade is 'correct' to my eyes.

[alsup2311]

My family and I have been selling our collection of T205s, 6s, 10s, and E series cards on and off again for over 25 years to generate income for my grandmother. This past summer my family decided to give me what was left, ~220 raw cards. I took the poor to good condition Brown Hindus, some tough Old Mills/OMSL, a couple HOF Tolstoi cards, and a few other random cards and auctioned them on Ebay as raw non graded cards. I was very happy with the results.

A few examples:

Good condition T206 Hindu George Stone sold for $2,024.99

Fair condition T206 Tolstoi Frank Chance Batting sold for $443.00

Poor condition T206 Hindu Kitty Bransfield sold for $718.00


I took what I thought was my best six and sent them to SGC. When I got them back they went on Ebay. I was very happy with the results.

Two examples:

SGC 3 T206 Ed Walsh, Old Mill sold for $4,675.00

SGC 2.5 T206 Clark Griffith Portrait, Hindu sold for $2,836.63

Then I took 185 cards and sent them to CSG. 172 I submitted as bulk for $12 per card! 13 of them a sent as Economy. I got the 13 back pretty quick, but I am waiting on the 172. I put the 13 on Ebay (straight auction) with no idea how they would do. Here are the results with my thoughts.

1. 1909-11 E90-1 Roger Bresnahan CSG 1 sold for $100. (IMO, I think a SGC 1 would have got over $200.)

2. T206 Old Mill Sam Crawford with Bat CSG 2.5 sold for $536.65. (I was happy. I think a SGC 2.5 would have performed similar.)

3. T206 Christy Mathewson White Cap, Piedmont Series 150 Fac 25, CSG 1 sold for $637.00. (Not bad, I think a SGC might have fetched an extra $50 to $75.)

4. T206 Addie Joss Portrait, Piedmont 350, CSG 2 sold for $356.00. (I was happy. I don't think an SGC 2 would have done too much better)

5. T206 Old Mill Vic Willis with Bat, CSG 2 sold for $338.33. (This card had great eye appeal and would have popped in a SGC slab. I think this move cost me over $100 in value.)

6. T206 Old Mill Joe Kelley Toronto HOF, CSG 5.5 sold for $460. (This was the most disappointing. I think a SGC 5.5 would have gotten over $800.)

7. T206 Miller Huggins Portrait Sweet Caporal 350/25, CSG 2.5 sold for $205.50. (This card had great centering and eye appeal. I think that SGC tuxedo would have pulled an extra $100.)

8. T206 Old Mill Nap Lajoie batting, CSG 1 sold for $716. (I was very happy. I don't think a SGC 1 would have gotten more.)

9. T206 Iron Man Joe McGinnity, CSG 1.5 sold for $129.50. (SGC might have gotten me $200 or more)

10. 1909-11 E90-1, Christy Mathewson, CSG 1.5 sold for $735. (I was happy. A SGC 1.5 might have pulled $800.)

11. T206 Vic Willis Portrait Pittsburgh Piedmont 150 - CSG 2 sold for $200.50. (A SGC 2 might have pulled another $50 to $75. It was not a great looking card.)

12. T206 Old Mill Frank Home Run Baker, CSG 2 sold for $436.01. (I was happy. This card had a major crease, but great eye appeal.)

13. T206 Old Mill Eddie Collins Philadelphia HOF, CSG 1 sold for $401.79. ( I was very happy.

Thanks for reading my take.

R/S
Dan

[Jcfowler6]

I like them. I have one card so far graded by CSG. I don’t care if auction houses use them.

Are the cards real? Are there hidden blemishes or alterations. I trust CSG to help me with that.

PSA grading trimmed cards since day one, slow turn time, and expense turns me away from them.


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[glchen]

I don't have any cards currently holdered by CSG, but I wouldn't have any problems buying cards in that holder (preferably the newer black label). I trust the graders there.

Saying that, I think that they need to expand beyond just the standard card size to at least go into the larger postcard sized holders. They should also partner with ebay to add to the Authentication Guarantee program. Something like if they authenticate the card for ebay, while they still have the card, they can also holder it for you for an extra fee (tier depending on the ebay sale price of the card). I think a lot of people would go for that, especially if this saves on the shipping price to/from for the card. Personally, I would definitely do that if the fee/turnaround time were reasonable. (e.g., $20-30 per card for a 2-3 week turnaround)