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seeking knowledge re: 1955 Topps baseball sheets
Hi all- I'm putting out the bat signal for anyone with knowledge about
player placement in 1955 Topps baseball sheets. A friend of mine (truly, it's not me) obtained a 55 Topps Sandy Koufax in which a partial border of the player "above" Sandy on the sheet, can be seen. My friend wondered who that player is. I am weak in this area and am asking net54 for some help. Were players placed in the same spot on those sheets, time after time? Does anyone know who the player above Sandy was? Feel free to PM, and thank you for your subject matter knowledge. Trent King |
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Can you show a scan of the miscut 55 Koufax? If there’s enough showing of the other player we may be able to figure it out that way.
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55 Topps sheets
Hi Cliff- thanks for replying. I don't own the card so I can't send a scan.
The only thing visible is maybe 1/16 inch of yellow border on the top part of Sandy's card. There's no other coloring or any hint about player ID. That's why I was hoping the sheets were uniform. Trent King |
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That knocks it down to 18 possible cards in the 1955 Topps 2nd Series, cards that have a yellow name/position/team band. Even if there is only a sliver of the career stat line visible on the back it might be possible to pinpoint which of the 18 cards it is. I am not aware of any pics of 1955 Topps 2nd Series sheets.
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55 Topps sheets
Cliff- thank you! I'll have my friend check the back then, that's very helpful.
Trent King |
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55 Topps sheets follow up
Ok gang- I have embarked on a very (!) amateur sleuthing quest for the
sheet question on 55 Topps. On ebay, I found a severely miscut Warren Spahn card #31 (first series). It was easily possible to see the stat line for the "unknown" player on the back top of Spahn's card. There is no question it's another Spahn...ebay seller is "sc-tarheelvintage" and ebay item number is 174709094130. Also, my friend found a miscut 55 Topps Gil Hodges where you can see the tip of a ballcap at the bottom of the whole Hodges. The color and physical location of that additional cap are a match for Gil's cap in the whole card, so it looks like it's another Hodges. Given this result, it is reasonable to conclude that 55 Topps sheets were single player sheets? Again, this is NOT my area of expertise by any stretch of the imagination. In the case of my friend whose 55 Koufax miscut led to this thread, the color visible for the partial card is the Koufax yellow. It seems he got a Koufax and and more Koufax, on his purchase of the SGC 1 miscut I'd enjoy reading more input. Thank you, Trent King |
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Here's a picture of a sheet that was auctioned that has Spahn.
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Only a first series sheet, above, is known. Absolutely not single player sheets.
Series 2 (probably 90-99, 111-150 or 160) and 3 sheets I do not believe are known to have surfaced. |
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55 Topps sheet
Gashouse Gang- Thank you! Incredible. Interesting that Spahn is the only
player on that Series 1 to be printed in the same place in two rows, so that he is sequentially in the same spot. So, the ebay Spahn miscut absolutely is his card Regarding the final series Gil Hodges miscut I mentioned, but cannot depict, it absolutely is him as well. I guess my friend won't know re: his Koufax unless or until a corresponding sheet is discovered/revealed.,, I did find a June 2022 post from Toppcat (Dave Hornish) on 55 Topps uncut sheets, as well as an article online from 2019 "Topps Archives" that were detailed for lower numbered cards. These were interesting reads for sure. Trent King |
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I think this is the 55 Topps Gil Hodges miscut you are referring to, it is #180 Clem Labine under Hodges not another Hodges. If you have a different miscut I apologize.
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Cliff- thank you, looks like you are correct. I guess this is why I was never
intrigued by sheet placement Looks like my friend may never know the identity of whose card was intruding on his Sandy! Trent King |
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Love of the Game offered what appears to be the other first series slit awhile back.
https://bid.loveofthegameauctions.co...e?itemid=18569 Last edited by toppcat; 08-15-2022 at 10:02 AM. |
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I toted up the number of impresisons for each player across both slits. Topps clearly included a bunch in the "series two" sheets that came after:
FIVE IMPRESSIONS (1) 70 ROSEN FOUR IMPRESSIONS (15) 14 FINIGAN 23 PARKS 29 WEHMEIER 31 SPAHN 58 RIVERA 59 ALLIE 61 JACOBS 62 KIPPER 67 MOON 80 GRIM 81 CONLEY 84 PASCUAL 86 WILSON THREE IMPRESSIONS (30) 2 WILLIAMS 3 FOWLER 7 HEGAN 8 SMITH 10 KEEGAN 16 SIEVERS 18 KEMMERER 19 HERMAN 24 NEWHOUSER 26 GROAT 30 POWER 32 McGHEE 33 QUALTERS 34 TERWILLIGER 36 KIELY 39 GLYNN 45 SAUER 49 PORTER 57 O'DELL 63 COLLINS 64 TRIANDOS 66 JACKSON 72 OLSON 77 PORTOCARRERO 78 JONES 82 HARMON 83 BREWER 89 FRAZIER 100 IRVIN 106 SULLIVAN TWO IMPRESSIONS (15) 5 GILLIAM 11 FAIN 13 MARSH 20 CAREY 25 PODRES 40 HOAK 41 STOBBS 47 AARON 50 ROBINSON 54 LIMMER 55 REPULSKI 74 BORKOWSKI 90 SPOONER 103 WHITE 105 DIERING ONE IMPRESSION (35) 1 RHODES 4 KALINE 6 HACK 9 MILLER 12 THEIS 17 HOFMAN 21 GRAMMAS 22 SKOWRON 27 GRADNER 28 BANKS 37 CUNNINGHAM 38 TURLEY 42 McCALL 43 HADDIX 44 VALENTINE 46 KAZANSKI 48 KENENDY 52 TREMEL 53 TAYLOR 56 JABLONSKI 60 STONE 65 BOONE 68 DAVIS 69 BAILEY 71 GOMEZ 73 SHEPARD 76 POLLET 79 SCHELL 85 MOSSI 87 HOUSE 88 SKINNER 102 WESTLAKE 104 HARSHMAN 107 ROBERTS 108 WALKER ZERO IMPRESSIONS (14) 15 PENDLETON 35 JOLLY 51 HUGHES 75 AMOROS 91 BOLLING 92 ZIMMER 93 BILKO 94 BERTOIA 95 WARD 96 BISHOP 97 PAULA 98 RIDDLE 99 LEJA 110 ZERNIAL Last edited by toppcat; 08-18-2022 at 03:10 PM. |
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Series by series card number breakdown for 1955 Topps Baseball
Do you happen to know the card numbers for Series 2 and Series 3, respectively?
Per your mention below, is Series 2: 111-150 (or 111-160) And Series 3: 151-210 (or 161-210) ? Thanks! |
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Series 2 presumably has these hold backs, as they don't seem to be more difficult to find like the final series. It seems to me series 2 probably catches us up to 160, as 161+ do seem to me to be a little bit tougher to find. So series 2 I expect will have 50 cards + the holdbacks - possibly a handful of numbers held back again that were pushed into series 3, making for another odd sheet any way we slice it. Series 3 I expect to have the 50 cards 161-210 printed twice each (4 for the DP's that replaced the missing card numbers). It's possible 151-160 were included in series 3, these 10 cards are sometimes bucketed as a different group and something unique may have happened there, possibly mirroring 90-99. I suspect, contrary to the hobby opinion, that it wasn't really contractual issues with 4 players that led to the no prints, but numbers just being held back as they were in earlier series to issue later, like Topps did throughout 1953. I suspect this set may not have been intended originally to end at 210. I hope a sheet will surface and we might be able to do more than make reasonable deductions. This is a really fun set. |
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