Claim of $80k+ theft at the National

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage

it does not sound like the guy is hiding. Perhaps he did some legal legwork and figured you can legally do this and leave the state?

Theft is illegal in most states. Probably even Jersey.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Theft is illegal in most states. Probably even Jersey.

from the article...
"Giddings, who provided witnesses who saw the incident, said detectives contacted the alleged suspect, who lives in Ohio, and requested that he return to Atlantic City to be interviewed, but he declined."

Of course its illegal, but maybe there is something equivalent to no-extradition across state lines for collectibles.... why else is this guy letting the victim know who he is and then answering a phone call from the cops?

[rdwyer]

Was going to type in all caps, but site won't let me. Not Dick Giddings!

[mrreality68]

Hopefully it works out but I also do not understand that in the article

I’m out of mind that I let him leave the booth because I trusted him because his bag was in the booth. We had no idea how much money was in the bag; it’s not my job to do that.


When you are dealing in that value of cards and that value of money then it is your job

[Lorewalker]

And if someone hands you a bag of their money in advance why the in world would you even think to take possession of it?

Like almost every theft story at the National I have heard, going back years and years, none of them seem to add up and are highly suspicious.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

And if someone hands you a bag of their money in advance why the in world would you even think to take possession of it?

Like almost every theft story at the National I have heard, going back years and years, none of them seem to add up and are highly suspicious.

LOL, my favorite is still the purple sticker guy story and all the fake accounts on here he or his friend made to post about it.

[Johnny630]

Your gonna do a transaction of that much money without counting the money and you let the guy walk with the cards ?? Come on Man? Sounds ridiculous. This doesn’t add up to me. What happened who knows?

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Your gonna do a transaction of that much money without counting the money and you let the guy walk with the cards ?? Come on Man? Sounds ridiculous. This doesn’t add up to me. What happened who knows?

+1

[chriskim]

I guess the seller is desperate to score a deal on a Saturday afternoon?

If cards are ungraded, I wouldn't let them out of my sight.... what happen if "the kid" drop and ding a few corners???

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, my favorite is still the purple sticker guy story and all the fake accounts on here he or his friend made to post about it.

Yup! Hence my reference to the ice cream line. That was a great piece of fiction and this one is starting to come off the same way.

[parkplace33]

I see he is on the National board. Rich, any update on this story?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, my favorite is still the purple sticker guy story and all the fake accounts on here he or his friend made to post about it.

Yeah that whole thread, with someone's supposed niece if I recall right, and Earl from SGC, and who knows what else was a classic.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah that whole thread, with someone's supposed niece if I recall right, and Earl from SGC, and who knows what else was a classic.

That one deserved a three part Netflix docuseries.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah that whole thread, with someone's supposed niece if I recall right, and Earl from SGC, and who knows what else was a classic.

I love when the evildoer is “Mr. Earl John Son of Cleveland”, not Johnson but John Son. He was right up there with the Riddler and Lex Luthor.

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage

from the article...
"Giddings, who provided witnesses who saw the incident, said detectives contacted the alleged suspect, who lives in Ohio, and requested that he return to Atlantic City to be interviewed, but he declined."

Of course its illegal, but maybe there is something equivalent to no-extradition across state lines for collectibles.... why else is this guy letting the victim know who he is and then answering a phone call from the cops?

Sounds like this is going to turn into a he/he said he/he said story. Ohio guy can claim a deal was done and the other guy stole the $86k out of the bag...things that make you go hmmmmm.

[Exhibitman]

"On second thought, take the bag of cash and leave the cannoli."

Karma is a bitch: if I am recalling it right, this is the dealer who sold stolen cards at the last AC national and refused to give back the inventory he had when the rightful owner and the buyer presented the facts. I won't out them but

[Lorewalker]

At least this time it did not take place in a line to get ice cream. Ice cream should never be a part of a crime or a crime scene.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

At least this time it did not take place in a line to get ice cream. Ice cream should never be a part of a crime or a crime scene.

Never underestimate the lure of a triple scoop waffle cone.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Never underestimate the lure of a triple scoop waffle cone.

I get it. Hard to eat with just one hand with a 51 Mantle in the other.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It gets weird at post 42.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=258272

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I get it. Hard to eat with just one hand with a 51 Mantle in the other.

You do have to admit Mathew has some great stories. He also has/had a ton of fake accounts on here.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by bnorth

You do have to admit Mathew has some great stories. He also has/had a ton of fake accounts on here.

I was right! He gave up the Mantle to grab the triple scoop in a waffle cone! https://www.net54baseball.com/showpo...&postcount=129 For what it is worth, I would too.

[Lorewalker]

Just read the stolen 51 Mantle thread. If ever a person or a thread deserved a purple sticker, Lowpopper and that thread should be the first. It reads better today than it did back in 18.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Never underestimate the lure of a triple scoop waffle cone.

Wow.
https://www.net54baseball.com/showpo...&postcount=130

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Never underestimate the lure of a triple scoop waffle cone.

With sprinkles, of course.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Theft is illegal in most states. Probably even Jersey.

Murderers get out with barely a slap on the wrist. What happens to thieves now a days?

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Murderers get out with barely a slap on the wrist. What happens to thieves now a days?

They get elected to Congress...

[RCFire82]

Went down some fun rabbit holes reading up on past "incidents" with the dealer involved in this "theft" case! On a side note, learned that Rich Klein wasn't the originator of Secret Santa...thank you sir for taking that over. Thinking of making it out to my first national next year. This is a good reminder to keep one's situation awareness up when it comes to who your dealing with.

[cannonballsun]

I checked out those other two threads that were mentioned in this thread.
Some pretty wild stuff, but some often amusing stuff.

[Shoeless Moe]

Not sure if this has been said already or not, but taken right from the article:

"Rick Giddings of Gizmo’s Sportscards of Davis Junction, Ill. reported the alleged theft to Atlantic City police on the final day of The National at the Atlantic City Convention Center.

According to Giddings, who is on the board of directors of The National, the incident occurred between 4 and 5:30 p.m. on Saturday, July 30."


So it happened on Saturday, but he doesn't report it until Sunday.

I know after I'm robbed I like to get a good nights sleep before reporting it a day later.

"DOH!!!!!"

[Jay Wolt]

& the $80K loss, was that his cost or his jacked up prices?
I'm sure there's a big difference

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Not sure if this has been said already or not, but taken right from the article:

"Rick Giddings of Gizmo’s Sportscards of Davis Junction, Ill. reported the alleged theft to Atlantic City police on the final day of The National at the Atlantic City Convention Center.

According to Giddings, who is on the board of directors of The National, the incident occurred between 4 and 5:30 p.m. on Saturday, July 30."


So it happened on Saturday, but he doesn't report it until Sunday.

I know after I'm robbed I like to get a good nights sleep before reporting it a day later.

"DOH!!!!!"

In the article, it says that the person who took the cards texted him and said he would see him in the morning, so he apparently decided to wait to see if he showed up, and when he didn't, he called the police. Probably not the best decision, but also probably not the most questionable part of the overall story.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by cannonballsun

I checked out those other two threads that were mentioned in this thread.
Some pretty wild stuff, but some often amusing stuff.

The Net54 rabbit holes suck sometimes. It's like there's 5? minutes of my life gone but, damn, that was entertaining again!
.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Theft is illegal in most states. Probably even Jersey.

Good one