Can I see some rare T206 Sweet Cap backs

[chriskim]

Now that looking at the OM back Ted posted (Ted, thx for posting that) and realized that upside down 649 factory overprint was printed about the same place as the place of the OM back. If the printer made mistakes of feeding uncut sheets upside down and printed those 649 factory overprints, they would have been printed on the higher portion of the back, right? And what's the chance of feeding SC and OM sheets upside down and made the same mistake. That's wacky!

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by chriskim

Now that looking at the OM back Ted posted (Ted, thx for posting that) and realized that upside down 649 factory overprint was printed about the same place as the place of the OM back. If the printer made mistakes of feeding uncut sheets upside down and printed those 649 factory overprints, they would have been printed on the higher portion of the back, right? And what's the chance of feeding SC and OM sheets upside down and made the same mistake. That's wacky!

Knowing what we do know about the borders on the T206 sheets I think the upside down 649 overprint is in the right place. I think the top borders of the sheets were bigger than the bottom border so the placement of the upside down overprint would be different on a sheet that was fed upside down.

I've seen large top borders like this but I've never seen bottom borders that big.



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[brianp-beme]

Sweet Caporal backs can be sneakily tough. I had fun checking through my T206 cards and found 3 cards with PSA population of 3 each. I didn't check SGC (is their pop report working now?), but also it might be noted that these are all raw, so there are probably plenty of tougher ones still flying under the radar. By checking the PSA website, it certainly appears Factory 25 in both the 150 and 350 Series have multiple examples of cards with 9 or less examples graded.

Brian

[chriskim]

OMG Pat! That's totally make sense! Not sure that topic was previously discussed or you took some time tonite and analyzed this. Thank you for sharing your knowledge as always!

[chriskim]

OMG Pat! That totally make sense! Not sure that topic was previously discussed or you took some time tonite and analyzed this. Thank you for sharing your knowledge as always!

[Ronnie73]

There are many difficult Sweet Caporal Combo's. Some are not mentioned because it would then raise the price and make them more difficult to purchase under the radar. Similar to the Nichols Batting with a Polar Bear back. I was buying them raw for $25 for many years and then one day Ted and I had a conversation about the rarity of them, here on Net54, and then the prices went crazy. I was selling my $25 cards for $300-$400.

There were already some nice rarities mentioned. There's a decent group of the 350 Factory 25's, and a few of the 460-25's that are more difficult than others. The PSA population report will give you a decent idea of what's more rare but it's not perfect. They didn't start counting Factory numbers until a few years ago. Plus you can't tell at all what SGC cards are 25's. Then you have all the raw cards still out there.

Here is my complete set of 28 Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 "Group B No Prints"

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

There are many difficult Sweet Caporal Combo's. Some are not mentioned because it would then raise the price and make them more difficult to purchase under the radar. Similar to the Nichols Batting with a Polar Bear back. I was buying them raw for $25 for many years and then one day Ted and I had a conversation about the rarity of them, here on Net54, and then the prices went crazy. I was selling my $25 cards for $300-$400.

There were already some nice rarities mentioned. There's a decent group of the 350 Factory 25's, and a few of the 460-25's that are more difficult than others. The PSA population report will give you a decent idea of what's more rare but it's not perfect. They didn't start counting Factory numbers until a few years ago. Plus you can't tell at all what SGC cards are 25's. Then you have all the raw cards still out there.

Here is my complete set of 28 Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 "Group B No Prints"

Hi Ron

Your scan of the 28 cards that were printed, but not issued with SWEET CAP 460 Factory #30 (Group B) did not appear. So, I took the liberty of posting my scan (hope you don't mind).
The backs of these guys were overprinted with SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory #42.
DITTO for the other 35 subjects (Group A) in the 350/460 series.











Take care, my friend.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Pat R]

Its not the rarest but it's pretty tough, it was among a group of 8 that were the last to be confirmed and even though there are a few PSA graded examples with the factory designation on them it's still not in their pop report.

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Originally Posted by Ronnie73

There are many difficult Sweet Caporal Combo's. Some are not mentioned because it would then raise the price and make them more difficult to purchase under the radar. Similar to the Nichols Batting with a Polar Bear back. I was buying them raw for $25 for many years and then one day Ted and I had a conversation about the rarity of them, here on Net54, and then the prices went crazy. I was selling my $25 cards for $300-$400.

There were already some nice rarities mentioned. There's a decent group of the 350 Factory 25's, and a few of the 460-25's that are more difficult than others. The PSA population report will give you a decent idea of what's more rare but it's not perfect. They didn't start counting Factory numbers until a few years ago. Plus you can't tell at all what SGC cards are 25's. Then you have all the raw cards still out there.

Here is my complete set of 28 Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 "Group B No Prints"

I can't view any of the images you post Ron.

[Ronnie73]

Hi Ted and Pat. Thank you for letting me know. I was having a problem seeing images I posted starting about a year ago. But it was only a problem from my desktop. When I'd view the same post on my iphone, the picture would show. At the time others were seeing my pictures, so I left things alone. But hated posting with a picture because I couldn't preview it. So I kinda stopped posting to some topics. Then I found a setting in the Microsoft edge browser. Not sure what you guys are using, but there is an option to view pictures from unsecured sites, meaning the https and http. So I checked it to allow pictures and now I can see the pictures I post on Net54. But in the past year, there must have been a change in the settings of the website to not allow or show unsecured pictures. So, instead of having everyone change their settings on their browser, (found by going to browser settings, cookies and site permissions and then allowing all pictures or adding the Net54 website to the list of trusted sites)(If interested), I'll have to set up that part of my server, so hosted pictures are coming from a trusted site. Thanks again guys!!

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

Hi Ted and Pat. Thank you for letting me know. I was having a problem seeing images I posted starting about a year ago. But it was only a problem from my desktop. When I'd view the same post on my iphone, the picture would show. At the time others were seeing my pictures, so I left things alone. But hated posting with a picture because I couldn't preview it. So I kinda stopped posting to some topics. Then I found a setting in the Microsoft edge browser. Not sure what you guys are using, but there is an option to view pictures from unsecured sites, meaning the https and http. So I checked it to allow pictures and now I can see the pictures I post on Net54. But in the past year, there must have been a change in the settings of the website to not allow or show unsecured pictures. So, instead of having everyone change their settings on their browser, (found by going to browser settings, cookies and site permissions and then allowing all pictures or adding the Net54 website to the list of trusted sites)(If interested), I'll have to set up that part of my server, so hosted pictures are coming from a trusted site. Thanks again guys!!

That's interesting Ron because I just went in my wife's office to see if I could view the images on her computers and they didn't show up on the two computers she has set up, and the browser on one of them is Microsoft edge.