Robert Edwards Auctions STILL going strong at 8:15 AM Est!!!!

[FourStrikes]

perhaps this all sucks for both buyers and sellers, but...
technological shit WILL happen when we all least expect it???

as both a buyer and seller in multiple auctions for over 20 years:
shit's gonna happen! - welcome to the "real" world.

[MattyC]

Awesome Jackson RC, so nice for the grade.
Same for that red Cobb.

Those Old Judge Delahanty cards are fantastic and I hope to add one in the future; he is a figure who really captures the imagination.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

perhaps this all sucks for both buyers and sellers, but...
technological shit WILL happen when we all least expect it???

as both a buyer and seller in multiple auctions for over 20 years:
shit's gonna happen! - welcome to the "real" world.

Personal opinion is it’s too easy to say shit happens. AHs most important job is to make sure there is integrity in the process, mostly including the close. Before I say shit happens would like to know whether the AH had issues before and whether it took any actions to correct the problems with more capacity, etc.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Personal opinion is it’s too easy to say shit happens. AHs most important job is to make sure there is integrity in the process, mostly including the close. Before I say shit happens would like to know whether the AH had issues before and whether it took any actions to correct the problems with more capacity, etc.

Just suppose they had prior issues and did not take adequate corrective action. What are you going to do with that information?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Just suppose they had prior issues and did not take adequate corrective action. What are you going to do with that information?

1. Say it’s not a great house and they should do better either by investing more in infrastructure or doing smaller auctions or breaking up current auctions.

2. Still bid on things I want because they have the best or close to it.

[Carter08]

But as others have mentioned, if ebay, Goldin or heaven forbid pwcc messed up an auction close there would be a lot less forgiveness/they made the best decision.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Carter08

But as others have mentioned, if ebay, Goldin or heaven forbid pwcc messed up an auction close there would be a lot less forgiveness/they made the best decision.

No if, Goldin had repeat outages. I doubt anyone stopped bidding with them. I don't recall anyone thinking it was semi-intentional of them to keep not fixing it. I think people just thought they were incompetent/foolishly loyal to their then current provider.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Just suppose they had prior issues and did not take adequate corrective action. What are you going to do with that information?

If auction houses lost money with one of these crashes it would never happen again.

Shit happens when it's sort of in your interest for the same shit to keep happening.

Reading the last 100 posts, overwhelmingly people are giddy with joy about the stuff they got. Wise man once said "stuff trumps everything."

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Wise man once said "stuff trumps everything."

And Peter said that, too.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Mark17

And Peter said that, too.

LOL if the joke is what I think it is.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If auction houses lost money with one of these crashes it would never happen again.

Shit happens when it's sort of in your interest for the same shit to keep happening.

Reading the last 100 posts, overwhelmingly people are giddy with joy about the stuff they got. Wise man once said "stuff trumps everything."

I'm usually pretty cynical but I really don't see the angle you're pursuing here.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If auction houses lost money with one of these crashes it would never happen again.

Shit happens when it's sort of in your interest for the same shit to keep happening.

Reading the last 100 posts, overwhelmingly people are giddy with joy about the stuff they got. Wise man once said "stuff trumps everything."

BTW I think you're overlooking that the biggest concern of an AH is attracting consignments. No effing way is it in their interest to keep having crashes, probably nothing turns off consignors more than knowing or suspecting the AH's platform has problems. Consignors have LOTS of choices these days.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

BTW I think you're overlooking that the biggest concern of an AH is attracting consignments. No effing way is it in their interest to keep having crashes, probably nothing turns off consignors more than knowing or suspecting the AH's platform has problems. Consignors have LOTS of choices these days.

Peter, you’re one of if not the savviest collector out here but that seems crazy to me. If you’re a consigner, this is the AH you want. Hey, if we have any issues, don’t worry we’ll make a 21 day auction 22 days.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Peter, you’re one of if not the savviest collector out here but that seems crazy to me. If you’re a consigner, this is the AH you want. Hey, if we have any issues, don’t worry we’ll make a 21 day auction 22 days.

This is venturing on the absurd. Find me one consignor who prefers a dysfunctional AH even if their policy is to add a day in the event of a meltdown. And find me one AH that actually is happy when their system crashes or doesn't really try to fix it because it's a revenue booster.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Peter, you’re one of if not the savviest collector out here but that seems crazy to me. If you’re a consigner, this is the AH you want. Hey, if we have any issues, don’t worry we’ll make a 21 day auction 22 days.

If an auction is extended a day the house and many consignors make more money. Fact. Indisputable. And no one loses a penny. Sort of like a casino. In many ways.

I’m not saying anyone is doing this on purpose. I’m saying no one is losing any sleep over it. A nothing burger as we say now. The notion that this is some source of embarrassment is nuts.

And, yes, if I consigned the Wagner card (or any card worth huge bucks) I’d be THRILLED the auction was extended a day.