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Old 04-18-2022, 09:44 AM
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OK, I've decided to make everything clear to everyone right up front by answering the main questions I have gotten on other listings before you ask them again:

--I am not interested in any offers unless I put in a Best Offer option. Please do not PM me asking for my "best price" or asking for an early end to the auction: the answer is "no". If you like the card and think the price is fair then bid on it; if you don't, just move along to a different card.

--I am well aware of what the market is for most anything I sell; trying to "educate" me on pricing is not a negotiation tool, it is just being a tool. Don't be a tool.

--Please don't share your opinion on whether the card is overgraded, undergraded, or graded just right, Goldilocks; I just don't care. Opinions are like...you know the rest.

--The photos are part of the description. Learn them. Know them. Live them.

--I am not going to tell you my opinion of the card. If you are grown-up enough to buy an expensive card then look at the nice big photos (usually 400 dpi scans), put on the big boy pants, and make your own decision. If that does not appeal to you, just move along to the next card.

--I do not know what PSA, SGC, BVG, CSG or any other TPG might grade it. If you want a graded card, then BUY ONE.

--I will not ship internationally except through the eBay Global Shipping Program. Look, I know it costs more than direct shipment but that's for my protection. There are many great, honest, trustworthy people outside the USA who would never dream of lying about not receiving an item, but there are some thieving pigs who lie about delivery and cheat hardworking sellers like me, so the good folks get the short end of things because of the scoundrels. Sorry.

--When you do contact me, a little basic courtesy is always appreciated and politely reciprocated; stupid messages are ignored, and nasty messages are ignored and then mercilessly mocked on hobby chat boards. I am a big mocker (those of you who speak Yiddish will appreciate that one).

--No Partial Refunds! Stuff happens, so if your item is damaged or non-conforming, please contact me. If your plan is to renegotiate the sale after the fact, however, don't bid, because I don't play that.

--I don't do sales tax fraud or customs fraud so don't even ask. Taxes are the price we pay for civilization. Just pay your taxes.

--I combine shipping for purchases with an automatic discount rule. Good for you, sucks for me...

--If I don't receive payment within four days of the close of an auction, I will cancel the sale and block you from further bidding in my auctions, unless you contact me, and we make other arrangements. Sometimes you want to bid on stuff that closes a few days later and save some shipping costs, sometimes stuff happens, which is fine, just let me know. Otherwise, man up and pay for what you purchased, player.

So, now that we're clear on that...
I agree with this 1,000%. I have had some guys recently on one of the unnamed facebook groups trying to educate me on what my raw cards are worth. Player, I know what my cards are worth better than you.
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Old 04-18-2022, 09:49 AM
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On an added note, I DO base my prices on what I think it will grade at, and what I think it will bring. If that bothers people, then move along.
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One more thing I would like to see from sellers and buyers both: honor the auction format. Sellers, finish the auction. Let it run. Buyers: don't complain on boards like this one that there are no auctions on eBay only to pitch a fit when a seller running an auction refuses to end it early because you offer him three bucks above the listing price.
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Old 04-18-2022, 12:17 PM
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One more thing I would like to see from sellers and buyers both: honor the auction format. Sellers, finish the auction. Let it run. Buyers: don't complain on boards like this one that there are no auctions on eBay only to pitch a fit when a seller running an auction refuses to end it early because you offer him three bucks above the listing price.
This as well.....I have had cards go for peanuts on the dollar, and the buyers pay within seconds of the ending. For cards that have done quite well lately, it is like crickets from the buyer. I end up having to get the fees back and blocking the buyer, all because it might have set a new high.
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For cards that have done quite well lately, it is like crickets from the buyer. I end up having to get the fees back and blocking the buyer, all because it might have set a new high.
I've had several of those too. One guy bid, reneged, NARU'd, then made up a new ID and won the card and reneged again. I ended up selling to the underbidder instead of relisting because I was afraid this twit would screw up my sale a third time if I relisted.
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Geez it sounds like a complete nightmare to be a card seller on Ebay.
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Geez it sounds like a complete nightmare to be a card seller on Ebay.
It's got flaws but it is a good, fast marketplace, pretty secure, and ends up being where I sell most of my stuff simply because I do not have really expensive stuff for sale and I hate the way AH's lump that sort of material into grab bags. You just have to carefully explain things so that people do not get unrealistic expectations.
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On an added note, I DO base my prices on what I think it will grade at, and what I think it will bring. If that bothers people, then move along.
Do you also buy raw cards by paying what a PSA graded card will bring? I can't imagine anyone not wanting PSA prices without any risk or grading fees.

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Geez it sounds like a complete nightmare to be a card seller on Ebay.
I have been on eBay since pretty much the beginning. In my personal experience 1 or 2 transactions per 100 are a pain in the ass. That ration has been consistent for me for the last 25 or so years.
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Geez it sounds like a complete nightmare to be a card seller on Ebay.
Thank goodness for eBay. Haven’t ever had a serious problem there with around 1000 buy/sell transactions give or take. Always able to get better prices than anywhere else.
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One more thing I would like to see from sellers and buyers both: honor the auction format. Sellers, finish the auction. Let it run. Buyers: don't complain on boards like this one that there are no auctions on eBay only to pitch a fit when a seller running an auction refuses to end it early because you offer him three bucks above the listing price.
This is the way.

I've offered a seller to end an auction once. I won it for 10% of my offer.

A number of sellers have claimed to have "lost or misplaced" a card I got a good price on at auction, then magically found it again to relist an hour later. Others have honored auction results that I would have a hard time blaming them for reneging on.
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This is the way.

I've offered a seller to end an auction once. I won it for 10% of my offer.

A number of sellers have claimed to have "lost or misplaced" a card I got a good price on at auction, then magically found it again to relist an hour later. Others have honored auction results that I would have a hard time blaming them for reneging on.
I'll never forget my worst....a 1954 Bowman Ted Williams SGC 6....sold for $500. Ebay was crashing left and right back then......I still honored the sale....the guy got it and flipped it for $1,200 a week later.....lol
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I agree with this 1,000%. I have had some guys recently on one of the unnamed facebook groups trying to educate me on what my raw cards are worth. Player, I know what my cards are worth better than you.
Thanks. When you boil it down, all I am really saying is I won't cheat, won't lie, won't negotiate over an auction, and won't give one buyer an advantage over others by ending an auction early (unless the buyer is a friend and there are no bids yet; that exception I make). I may, on occasion, add a BIN to the mix, or list an item with a BIN/BO.

I'd say 90% of my listings are auctions with a $10 minimum bid, and the rest are auctions with higher minimums instead of a reserve. I like to let things play out. Sometimes I am disappointed in the outcome, most times the last three years, I am not.
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