PayPal friends vs goods

[Jim65]

I've been burned in the past by a long time trusted member, (on another forum). Lesson learned, I never use F&F for any transaction anymore.

Packages can get lost or damaged, disputes about condition can happen. If a seller is afraid of buyers who choose to protect themselves, thats not a seller I would trust anyway.

[Pjere]

Originally Posted by Jim65

I've been burned in the past by a long time trusted member, (on another forum). Lesson learned, I never use F&F for any transaction anymore.

Packages can get lost or damaged, disputes about condition can happen. If a seller is afraid of buyers who choose to protect themselves, thats not a seller I would trust anyway.

As previously mentioned I thought the same way until operating on this forum. I was surprised at the amount of people who only do friends and family, but it seems to be mostly tax and profit related. I have a good friend who sold a Mike trout auto rookie via PayPal goods. If I remember right, the buyer decided to return it but returned a different card, yet the tracking showed returned and PayPal awarded the return so the seller was out a trout and $12k! How is the seller protected in that scenario?


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[Jim65]

Originally Posted by Pjere

As previously mentioned I thought the same way until operating on this forum. I was surprised at the amount of people who only do friends and family, but it seems to be mostly tax and profit related. I have a good friend who sold a Mike trout auto rookie via PayPal goods. If I remember right, the buyer decided to return it but returned a different card, yet the tracking showed returned and PayPal awarded the return so the seller was out a trout and $12k! How is the seller protected in that scenario?


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Theres no way for a seller to be protected in a situation like that. Its one word against another. Unfortunately, those situations do happen.

Should PayPal reimburse your friend $12K on his word that the wrong card was sent back? Thats a scumbag buyer, PayPal didn't do anything wrong.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Theres no way for a seller to be protected in a situation like that. Its one word against another. Unfortunately, those situations do happen.

Should PayPal reimburse your friend $12K on his word that the wrong card was sent back? Thats a scumbag buyer, PayPal didn't do anything wrong.

Beyond scumbag; that buyer is a criminal committing five-figure fraud (presumably) through the mail.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Pjere

As previously mentioned I thought the same way until operating on this forum. I was surprised at the amount of people who only do friends and family, but it seems to be mostly tax and profit related. I have a good friend who sold a Mike trout auto rookie via PayPal goods. If I remember right, the buyer decided to return it but returned a different card, yet the tracking showed returned and PayPal awarded the return so the seller was out a trout and $12k! How is the seller protected in that scenario?


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This is exactly why I just prefer friends and family. There's fraud risk either way (to the seller one way, to the buyer the other way), so the net gain is 0. I don't deal with people I don't know by at least reputation for any sizable amounts.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by G1911

This is exactly why I just prefer friends and family. There's fraud risk either way (to the seller one way, to the buyer the other way), so the net gain is 0. I don't deal with people I don't know by at least reputation for any sizable amounts.

Couldn't agree more. Plus I have had one of those only pay with G&S screw me twice. I rarely sell on here but in my listing I put if paying with G&S buyer was to pay fees. Buyer agreed and then never paid the fees. I over looked it and then the same buyer done it a second time. I was pissed but over looked it again. Unfortunately they have never bought another item from me so I could refund their payment and tell then what a cheap POS they are.