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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Pat R

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Originally Posted by Archive

Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I am finally out of jury duty, all week I didn't get on any case. The lawyers kept rejecting me....didn't
like my looks, didn't like my answers, or most likely didn't want an engineer on a case.

In general, I agree with you, it's a "monster mess", as there are too many back variables to try and arrive
at some neat rhyme or reason from all this. My perspective, however, for this theory ignores the compli-
cations resulting from the various backs and is a 1st order approach with respect to the fronts. Which, by
the way, you can apply this thinking to an all-Piedmont set of 522 cards and the analysis should be the
same.

Do you agree, though, that with 144 Subjects in the 150/350 group....48 Southern Lgers....and 48 Subjects
in the 460-only Series, it is awful tempting to think T206 formatted their design around this factor of 48 ?

And, I say this because I still have strong feelings that the fronts were printed separately; and, at some
stage in the process were somehow appliqued onto pre-printed cardboard sheets with the various T-brands.
So, that's my rationale for approaching this strictly from a "front" perspective. Otherwise, it is mind-boggling.

TED Z

Originally Posted by Archive

Posted By: Scot Reader

Ted,

I too was dismissed from a jury panel during voir dire last time I was called for service. Engineer + Lawyer = Goodbye. Anyway, on the same jury panel was a guy who had legally changed his name to Jesus Christ and who came to the courtroom dressed in a white robe. He survived voir dire and ruled on the case. No joke.

I will grant you that "48" pops up a lot in T206. I'm just not sure anything about production can be surmised from that.

Scot

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
The 1st series, 2/3 (33 cards) of the 49 have the 1948 COPY-
RIGHT; and, 16 cards have the 1949 COPYRIGHT. The 2nd series
(scarce issue) approx. has the same breakdown between 1948 &
1949 COPYRIGHTs. Does this suggest that some cards were issued
in 1948, while others in 1949 ? HECK NO !
1st..It is ILLEGAL, & certainly ILLOGICAL to grant a COPYRIGHT
in advance.
2nd..I can clearly recall buying and trading many of the LEAF
BB cards early in 1949. In Hillside, NJ we only had the 1st
series cards. My original collection survived and I had over
100 of these cards. We kept buying them since we could not
figure how many completed a set (due to the skip-nos. cards)
3rd..Then, in the early '80s I acquired an uncut 49-card sheet
of 1948 LEAF Boxing Champs and an uncut 49-card sheet of
1949 LEAF BB cards (1st series). This confirmed in my mind
that my recollection was accurate regarding this 1949 issue
4th..In researching into the players who were traded late in
1948 that are portrayed in this set, it becomes evident that
it is virtually impossible to have marketed this set in 1948
Finally, I was able to complete the 1949 LEAF set during the
1980's, starting with Leroy Paige. I acquired this card back
in 1982 from Rick Starks (Erie, PA dealer). He helped me with
almost all of the 2nd 49 cards, as nearby OHIO was the main
souce of them. My experience with the "scarce" LEAF cards is
that LEAF limited distribution of them to OHIO and MICHIGAN.


Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Hal, you have asked me essentially four questions, so here
are my answers:

1st....Yes, the 1949 Leaf BB set of 98 cards were printed on
two sheets configured in a 7 x 7 array = 49 cards each.

2nd....I have had only the first series uncut sheet and there
exists a mixture of 1948 & 1949 COPYRIGHTed cards on this
sheet (the Copyright breakdown is 33 and 16, respectively)
I have never seen a 2nd series sheet; however, it can be
a safe assumption that it would contain a mixture of both
year's Copyrights, as the 1st sheet. Indeed, if you look
at the backs of the "so-called" SP cards, the breakdown of
two years' Copyrights is very similar.

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