Carlton World

[Ron]

Would like to add to my knowledge
what makes this a boat steering wheel and not a car steering wheel is it the size?

[Scott Garner]

OK, I seriously give Carlton my vote for "Most Interesting Guy"
with the most eclectic, well researched collection on the planet.

Love this thread!

[CarltonHendricks]

Scott…oh my gosh what a hoot…you really got a laugh out of me…I need a get-up like that…

Ron…Thanks for asking that…I always ask the same question with these steering wheels…I’ve yet to find a wheel with markings you could research…so there isn’t any science to it…no one has published on it…I’m still learning the ropes but basically you have to ask questions as to where it came from…and gather as much intel you can before buying…As for this one…There’s no makers marks to prove its from a Gar Wood boat but the engraving is very unusual…and over-all it has an unusual look….intuition said I could regret not getting it even though it was pricey….seller told me later that the collection he got it from was in Springfield Ontairo Canada…which is right there in the Great Lakes region, sort of the motherland of early powerboating…Gar Wood…Hacker…Chris-Craft…Dodge… were all there in that region…Not to mention the renown Canadian boat builders of the Muskokas region of Ontario… Port Carling, Ditchburn, Minett-Shields, Greavette, and Duke…As for the difference between an automobile and boat steering wheel…I asked one classic boat authority this question about my wheel: Is there any way to tell for sure it’s from a boat?....He wrote back: “Many boats used automotive wheels, so it probably was from a car manufacturer. Whether or not it was ever in a car, who knows”…I could see that in some instances…but for those high end powerboats that went to the mega-rich of the day…I might speculate special wheels were made…After this post you’ll be noticing every antique steering wheel you see LOL…

[frankbmd]

"I'm Carlton ......... And This is My World"

[Ron]

thanks for info carlton
the lesson is if u are not sure ask someone that may know more than u
the one pic of the garwood top left corner with the 4 spoke wheel makes sense as to why this may be from a garwood

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by CarltonHendricks

Scott…oh my gosh what a hoot…you really got a laugh out of me…I need a get-up like that…

Ron…Thanks for asking that…I always ask the same question with these steering wheels…I’ve yet to find a wheel with markings you could research…so there isn’t any science to it…no one has published on it…I’m still learning the ropes but basically you have to ask questions as to where it came from…and gather as much intel you can before buying…As for this one…There’s no makers marks to prove its from a Gar Wood boat but the engraving is very unusual…and over-all it has an unusual look….intuition said I could regret not getting it even though it was pricey….seller told me later that the collection he got it from was in Springfield Ontairo Canada…which is right there in the Great Lakes region, sort of the motherland of early powerboating…Gar Wood…Hacker…Chris-Craft…Dodge… were all there in that region…Not to mention the renown Canadian boat builders of the Muskokas region of Ontario… Port Carling, Ditchburn, Minett-Shields, Greavette, and Duke…As for the difference between an automobile and boat steering wheel…I asked one classic boat authority this question about my wheel: Is there any way to tell for sure it’s from a boat?....He wrote back: “Many boats used automotive wheels, so it probably was from a car manufacturer. Whether or not it was ever in a car, who knows”…I could see that in some instances…but for those high end powerboats that went to the mega-rich of the day…I might speculate special wheels were made…After this post you’ll be noticing every antique steering wheel you see LOL…

Those boats are gorgeous. What do they go for?

[mrreality68]

As Always Great Stuff Carlton

When are you going to pitch a show to History Channel or someplace for your reality show?

[Jay Wolt]

As always, one of my favorite threads on N54, keep em coming Carlton

[CarltonHendricks]

I initially saw this photo at the Nov. 2021 Grass Valley Old West show…I bought a bunch of stuff that weekend and had to pass…but four months went by and it was still on my mind…but I couldn’t recall the dealer to see if he still had it…I saw him set up at the San Francisco Book and Paper fair in February…He didn’t bring it but said he still had it…problem was he lived 5hrs away in Three Rivers Calif near Fresno…So last week he texted me he would be set up a the Gas City Saloon show in Stockton April 16th….So finally I went and bought it…





The Everitt was manufactured from 1909 until 1912 by the Metzger Motor Car Company in Detroit…there were quite a few cars made in Detroit back then by different companies you’ve probably never heard of…Personal and jobbing out were all very intertwined…bodies made to order for other companies…seats and interiors jobbed out…and a lot of buy outs…Chrysler buying dodge…etc..etc…it was kind of the wild west of manufacturing…as the automobile was selling like hot cakes…



I’ve had it two days and still can’t sort it all out…Not sure where the track is…It looks perhaps like it was a practice run....as I don’t see any other cars…For me several aspects make it exceptional…First the 30” x 12” size is rare for that early…I’m all about big photos…The frame looks original from the 1910 period and the glass is wavy so I’m convinced it was produced in the same era it represents….so it’s “old”…Then you have the wide angle view…almost panoramic….The image says a lot…look at that stream of dust coming out from behind the front right wheel…then look at the cloud of dust extending all the way around the track…That’s good photography…good capture…The three gentleman standing in the track are interesting…they don’t look like fans….more like company principles very interested in how fast it can go…the one on the right looks like he may be holding a stopwatch…



It’s all about the clues with photos like these…little tell-tale nuances that help you figure out the who what where…In this instance there really isn’t a lot to go on…But having the EVERITT on the hood is certainly cornerstone…There is a number 1 on the grill…that’s interesting….implying it was in races...where is yet to be learned…And then I hit some pay dirt…on the back is a sticker…DENVER is very clear…That’s certainly interesting…so I spent a lot of time trying to trace the sticker…after a lot of detective work the sticker says:

J. Gibson Smith
Art Dealer
322 17th St.
Denver



Essentially…it sounds like J. Gibson Smith was a picture framer who sold art at some point…So either the photo was taken elsewhere than the Denver region and brought in for framing…or it was taken in the Denver area…I found one photo of the…but that’s just a bunch of hunches…I have some iron in the fire waiting to hear back…

[19cbb]

I concur.

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

OK, I seriously give Carlton my vote for "Most Interesting Guy"
with the most eclectic, well researched collection on the planet.

Love this thread!

[carlsonjok]

Seeing these recent posts reminded me of visiting the Antique Boat Museum in Clayton, NY on the St. Lawrence River. It is an absolutely fantastic museum and you can actually take rides on the river in one of the wood boats they have restored.

[CarltonHendricks]

Just unpacked this terra cotta tobacco jar of famed English horseracing jockey Fred Archer 1857-1886…Over the years I’d seen stevengraphs and I think maybe tobacco cards of Fred Archer, but never knew much about him...But I was attracted to this because it was figural…once I got it unpacked and displayed I was glad I got it…has some cracks but for a buck fifty I can live with it…came from England. A tragic figure but great at what he did…

Frederick James "Fred" Archer
Born 11 January 1857 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Died November 8, 1886, Newmarket, Suffolk, United Kingdom

Fred Archer, also known by the nickname The Tin Man, was an English flat race jockey of the Victorian era, described as "the best all-round jockey that the turf has ever seen". Delirious from wasting and the loss of his wife during childbirth, he took his own life at the age of 29.
alchetron.com

[CarltonHendricks]

Here's today's snag at Alameda...It’s a great consolation prize for getting outbid today on the double sided Dodge Boats sign below....I thought I had a decent crack at it with an $1100.00 bid...ha!...went for $6200.00...the other boat signs in the same auction went for big money too...It was a learning excursion for me...I knew boat stuff was curiously high for as obscure as it is...but apparently not as obscure as I thought...and I'm not the only one that likes the stuff...Dodge...Hacker...Chris-Craft...and Gar Wood are basically the biggest names in early powerboat racing....would have been nice to get the Dodge...That Evinrude is quite remarkable though...not powerboat racing but too good to pass up...you don't usually find stuff that caliber at Alameda...Usually things that good go in a brick and mortar...The seller knew the history of the poster...said he got it from the family of someone who worked at the Schreiber establishment that sold Evinrudes on Tomales Bay in Marin County, north of the Golden Gate Bridge...referenced on the bottom the poster...and I found a photos online of the business...I think the seller said the building is an historic landmark or something...Useless information...Drakes Bay where we used to cut school and go to isn't far from there...

[Leon]

Cool stuff, Carlton. Thanks for sharing!
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