***Lost 1888 N162 Goodwin Champs King Kelly - PSA 3 (MK)

[skelly423]

I don't know the parties involved and don't intend to libel anyone, but to me the simplest explanation would be that the seller had a major case of seller's remorse and just sent an empty package. The (mostly) honest thing would be to send the refund, and play along with the investigation for the benefit of the buyer. I doubt we'd ever know, but I wouldn't be surprised if the card is still safely tucked away in the seller's collection.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by skelly423

I don't know the parties involved and don't intend to libel anyone, but to me the simplest explanation would be that the seller had a major case of seller's remorse and just sent an empty package. The (mostly) honest thing would be to send the refund, and play along with the investigation for the benefit of the buyer. I doubt we'd ever know, but I wouldn't be surprised if the card is still safely tucked away in the seller's collection.

This exactly. Can I ask what the winning bid was?? I'm thinking the seller was not happy with the final sales price.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by skelly423

I don't know the parties involved and don't intend to libel anyone, but to me the simplest explanation would be that the seller had a major case of seller's remorse and just sent an empty package. The (mostly) honest thing would be to send the refund, and play along with the investigation for the benefit of the buyer. I doubt we'd ever know, but I wouldn't be surprised if the card is still safely tucked away in the seller's collection.

Would it not have been simpler to just cancel the sale?

There are now several additional parties (law enforcement, PSA, USPS) involved. The cert number is now invalid. People are on the lookout for this card (both actively and passively) as though it were stolen.

If the seller did this to avoid parting with the card, they went about things in a rather foolish, needlessly over-complicated manner.

EDITED TO ADD: Not that I condone cancelling sales b/c the hammer price was lower than anticipated...

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Would it not have been simpler to just cancel the sale?

There are now several additional parties (law enforcement, PSA, USPS) involved. The cert number is now invalid. People are on the lookout for this card (both actively and passively) as though it were stolen.

If the seller did this to avoid parting with the card, they went about things in a rather foolish, needlessly over-complicated manner.

EDITED TO ADD: Not that I condone cancelling sales b/c the hammer price was lower than anticipated...

People don't always follow the smart path. That is obvious by the multitude of spouses that "off" their partners rather than simply divorce them. Americans aren't known for being smart. That is what makes those "Man on the Street" interviews so entertaining.

[skelly423]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Would it not have been simpler to just cancel the sale?

There are now several additional parties (law enforcement, PSA, USPS) involved. The cert number is now invalid. People are on the lookout for this card (both actively and passively) as though it were stolen.

If the seller did this to avoid parting with the card, they went about things in a rather foolish, needlessly over-complicated manner.

EDITED TO ADD: Not that I condone cancelling sales b/c the hammer price was lower than anticipated...

I doubt the thought process went beyond "I wish I hadn't sold that card (or I don't like the sale price I got). I'll just send an empty package and give a refund." They probably figured the refund would be where this ended. Once this was escalated, there wasn't exactly an opportunity to back out without admitting what had happened. Most crimes are not well thought out.