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Old 08-25-2021, 01:49 PM
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Resurrecting this thread as I continue to build the plan for my Hall of Fame collection, and it also might help fellow Hall of Fame collectors formulate their collection goals.

I'm looking to make a list of the damn-near impossible Hall of Famers due to rarity and/or cost ($5k+). Guys like Burkett & Dreyfuss, although rare, are semi-obtainable (I think...). Here is the list I have so far...

Frank Selee
Al Spalding
George Wright
Pete Hill
Pop Lloyd
Oscar Charleston
Biz Mackey
Josh Gibson
Cristobal Torriente
Jose Mendez
Andy Cooper

Does anyone else have anyone they'd like to add to the list? What are some non-mainstream options for some of these guys or any other difficult Hall of Famers? Looking forward to the board's input.
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:52 PM
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Does Landis appear on anything resembling a card?
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Does Landis appear on anything resembling a card?
That's a good question. I have his 1960 Fleer, but I might upgrade to his M114, I believe produced in 1943? I wouldn't consider that a card, but it is catalogued. Otherwise, I've only seen a booklet of his from his involvement days.
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Ed Delahanty perhaps?
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Resurrecting this thread as I continue to build the plan for my Hall of Fame collection, and it also might help fellow Hall of Fame collectors formulate their collection goals.

I'm looking to make a list of the damn-near impossible Hall of Famers due to rarity and/or cost ($5k+). Guys like Burkett & Dreyfuss, although rare, are semi-obtainable (I think...). Here is the list I have so far...

Frank Selee
Al Spalding
Harry Wright
George Wright
Pete Hill
Pop Lloyd
Oscar Charleston
Biz Mackey
Josh Gibson
Cristobal Torriente
Jose Mendez
Andy Cooper

Does anyone else have anyone they'd like to add to the list? What are some non-mainstream options for some of these guys or any other difficult Hall of Famers? Looking forward to the board's input.
Harry Wright appears on several N172 poses and while they can be expensive, so are many other HOFers in that set. But it is a major set and it's not like you need to find an 1860s or 1870s cdv or cabinet like you would for Spalding or George Wright. Harry was not an active player at the time but he was an active manager, which I think should count as being active.
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Harry Wright appears on several N172 poses and while they can be expensive, so are many other HOFers in that set. But it is a major set and it's not like you need to find an 1860s or 1870s cdv or cabinet like you would for Spalding or George Wright. Harry was not an active player at the time but he was an active manager, which I think should count as being active.
That's very fair. I guess you could remove Harry Wright from the list.
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Great thread. Here are a few early cards of Landis:

1910s Indianapolis Star Mounted Cabinet:


1929 Men of America Booklet (I’ve seen/owned a few that are SGC graded):


I’ve also seen a handful of 1920s postcards with Landis. And I once owned a Connecticut team postcard from 1914. But I’m content with these two for my collection.

Landis is very doable. There are plenty of booklets that find their way on eBay each year, if you’re looking for one.
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Resurrecting this thread as I continue to build the plan for my Hall of Fame collection, and it also might help fellow Hall of Fame collectors formulate their collection goals.

I'm looking to make a list of the damn-near impossible Hall of Famers due to rarity and/or cost ($5k+). Guys like Burkett & Dreyfuss, although rare, are semi-obtainable (I think...). Here is the list I have so far...

Frank Selee
Al Spalding
George Wright
Pete Hill
Pop Lloyd
Oscar Charleston
Biz Mackey
Josh Gibson
Cristobal Torriente
Jose Mendez
Andy Cooper

Does anyone else have anyone they'd like to add to the list? What are some non-mainstream options for some of these guys or any other difficult Hall of Famers? Looking forward to the board's input.
Most of them would be possible through the Billiken set though it's one that's rare and expensive.

Gibson you're out of luck I believe as the only real card of his is his 1950-1951 Toleteros
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Even the Toleteros was issued several years after his death, so in a sense is not a real card.
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Even the Toleteros was issued several years after his death, so in a sense is not a real card.
Very true, Peter. I meant "real" in terms of a card issued by a company. I suppose his Harrison Studio's photo could qualify, but we're talking a boatload of money for that.
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Very true, Peter. I meant "real" in terms of a card issued by a company. I suppose his Harrison Studio's photo could qualify, but we're talking a boatload of money for that.
As if the Toleteros is cheap LOL. STILL after about a decade kicking myself for not manning up on one in a LOTG auction. That ship has sailed, relegating me to a 1974 Laughlin lol.
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As if the Toleteros is cheap LOL. STILL after about a decade kicking myself for not manning up on one in a LOTG auction. That ship has sailed, relegating me to a 1974 Laughlin lol.
Haha another true statement. I was looking on PSA's site I saw a PSA 4 went for a little over 9K in 2012, a 3 just sold for 42K in REA's spring auction of this year!
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Haha another true statement. I was looking on PSA's site I saw a PSA 4 went for a little over 9K in 2012, a 3 just sold for 42K in REA's spring auction of this year!
The one I am thinking of was an SGC 5 if I recall correctly, went somewhere in the low teens in LOTG. Sometimes short term cheap is long term stupid. The upside is I learned a lesson and going forward did not sweat overpaying a little for key cards and of course in hindsight they mostly look very cheap.
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Very true, Peter. I meant "real" in terms of a card issued by a company. I suppose his Harrison Studio's photo could qualify, but we're talking a boatload of money for that.
I’ve only ever seen the signed copy of this PC. Are there multiples on market?
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I've only seen the signed as well. If we count the team PC's to fit the bill, because they feature Gibson, then I think there are three total out there! But Yes as far as we all know the solo is a one of one, but they're all priceless.

It's tragic really. Not only from the sense that he would've made a hell of a Major Leaguer had the color barrier not existed, But also from a collecting standpoint, there's virtually no cards of him. We at least have a couple of Oscar Charleston to work with, because of his time in the Cuban league.
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I agree with James. AFAIK, there is one copy (which is signed) of Josh Gibson’s 1931 Harrison Studios solo Real Photo Postcard and three copies of the 1931 Harrison Studio RPPC of the 1931 Homestead Grays which features both Josh Gibson and Oscar Charleston.

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I agree with James. AFAIK, there is one copy (which is signed) of Josh Gibson’s 1931 Harrison Studios solo Real Photo Postcard and three copies of the 1931 Harrison Studio RPPC of the 1931 Homestead Grays which features both Josh Gibson and Oscar Charleston.

Here is his 1931 Team RPPC.
Wow that is a great card with a lot of history and love the rarity
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