1950 "Whiz Kids" team. The Phillies are the longest continuous franchise (est. 1883)

[molenick]

I love the cards and Ted's posts, and I don't want to make this into one of those argumentative threads, but wouldn't the Braves and Cubs be considered longer continuous franchises, having been charter NL teams in 1876? And if you count the NA, wouldn't the Braves (as the Red Stockings) be the longest running team?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by molenick

I love the cards and Ted's posts, and I don't want to make this into one of those argumentative threads, but wouldn't the Braves and Cubs be considered longer continuous franchises, having been charter NL teams in 1876? And if you count the NA, wouldn't the Braves (as the Red Stockings) be the longest running team?

Michael

I didn't have enough space in the title of this thread to qualify...."The Phillies are the longest continuous franchise (est. 1883)."

What I mean by this, is that no other team in Major League history has it's franchise NAME the same (e.g. PHILLIES) as long as the Philadelphia Phillies have (138 years).


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[molenick]

Got it, thanks for the clarification.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

The Phillies are the longest continuous franchise (est. 1883)

Really? What about the Cubs (est. 1876)? The Braves were also established in 1876 although they have moved locations a few times.

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Originally Posted by tedzan

Michael

I didn't have enough space in the title of this thread to qualify...."The Phillies are the longest continuous franchise (est. 1883)."

What I meant by this, is that no other team in Major League history has it's franchise NAME the same (e.g. PHILLIES), as long as the Philadelphia Phillies have for 138 years.
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Hey Jay

I am repeating here what I have already stated in Post # 10.

Sometimes it's worth reading thru a thread before you criticize me.


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[tedzan]

For those of you who are interested in history.....

Philadelphia Phillies....they were originally named the "Quakers". The nickname "Phillies" first appeared in the
Philadelphia Inquirer in their April 3rd 1883 edition, and within a few years Phillies became their official name.

Cincinnati Reds.....since 1890 were called the Red Stockings, Reds, then Redlegs (1953), back to Reds (1961).

Chicago Cubs....since 1876 were called the White Stockings, Colts (1890), "Cubs" 1902, (officially Cubs 1907).


TED Z

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[OldOriole]

Originally Posted by molenick

I love the cards and Ted's posts, and I don't want to make this into one of those argumentative threads, but wouldn't the Braves and Cubs be considered longer continuous franchises, having been charter NL teams in 1876? And if you count the NA, wouldn't the Braves (as the Red Stockings) be the longest running team?

Michael,

Just a quick follow up, as I also do not want to hijack any threads. I believe you are correct - the Braves and Cubs go back to 1876 (1871 for the Braves if counting the NA). St. Louis, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati were all established in 1882 (according to baseball-reference). Now, interestingly, Ted's point is valid that the Phillies are the oldest (tied with Cincinnati) if you consider the same city and team name (no changes) through their history:

Philadelphia Phillies - since 1890 (were previously called the Quakers)
Cincinnati Reds - since 1890 (were called the Red Stockings, Redlegs)
Pittsburgh Pirates - since 1891 (were called the Alleghenys)
St. Louis Cardinals - since 1900 (were called the Browns, Perfectos)
Chicago Cubs - since 1903 (were called the Orphans, Colts, White Stockings)
Atlanta Braves - since 1966 (moved from Milwaukee and Boston before that)

[molenick]

Great info, thanks. I would post another card, but Ennis is the only Whiz Kid I have!

[bgar3]

Nice photo Ted. All my bunting photos are black and whites.

[jingram058]

Here is a nice team photo of the 1950 Philadelphia Phillies, The Whiz Kids. Kind of like the 1951 Giants and the 1959 White Sox, probably as popular or perhaps even more so than the team that won the Series.