Will Roger Maris ever get into the HOF?

[packs]

Originally Posted by Brianruns10

I was wondering, is there ANY single season achievement that might get someone in the HoF? Like, suppose someone broke DiMaggio's hitting streak, or batted .400 for a season, but then their career fell apart due to an injury. Do you think that single season's achievement would be HoF worthy?

I don't think there's any other reason why Dizzy Dean is in the HOF except for winning 30 games once. He only pitched in parts of 12 seasons in total and in three of those seasons he pitched exactly 1 game. Why else is he in?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by packs

I don't think there's any other reason why Dizzy Dean is in the HOF except for winning 30 games once. He only pitched in parts of 12 seasons in total and in three of those seasons he pitched exactly 1 game. Why else is he in?

He had a very strong 4.5 year prime, won 20+ games each season. He finished 1st, 2nd, 2nd and 7th in MVP voting. The next season he was injured in the AS game and struggled with injuries the rest of his career. Those 4.5 seasons he averaged 25+ wins per season. So, yes he did a lot more than have a one season career. He got very strong support from the baseball writers who saw him play and elected him.

[mortimer brewster]

Originally Posted by rats60

He had a very strong 4.5 year prime, won 20+ games each season. He finished 1st, 2nd, 2nd and 7th in MVP voting. The next season he was injured in the AS game and struggled with injuries the rest of his career. Those 4.5 seasons he averaged 25+ wins per season. So, yes he did a lot more than have a one season career. He got very strong support from the baseball writers who saw him play and elected him.

Also Dean was a larger than life character as a player. He was constantly generating publicity for the game (and himself).

His period of domination was about the same as Koufax who was certainly Hall worthy.

[packs]

Originally Posted by rats60

He had a very strong 4.5 year prime, won 20+ games each season. He finished 1st, 2nd, 2nd and 7th in MVP voting. The next season he was injured in the AS game and struggled with injuries the rest of his career. Those 4.5 seasons he averaged 25+ wins per season. So, yes he did a lot more than have a one season career. He got very strong support from the baseball writers who saw him play and elected him.

I think his 30 win season is why he's in the HOF. Do you think he gets in without it? Without hitting a milestone like 30 wins I mean. Not without winning his MVP.

A lot of pitchers have had some impressive stretches. Johan Santana comes to mind. If Johan Santana won 30 games in his prime I think he's in the HOF too.

[Jim65]

Does Jack Chesbro get in if he doesn't win 41 games in 1904?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by packs

I think his 30 win season is why he's in the HOF. Do you think he gets in without it? Without hitting a milestone like 30 wins I mean. Not without winning his MVP.

A lot of pitchers have had some impressive stretches. Johan Santana comes to mind. If Johan Santana won 30 games in his prime I think he's in the HOF too.

If he had only won 29 games in his MVP season I think he still makes it. He still averages 25+ wins over 4.5 seasons before his injury Not many pitchers have had a peak like that. There is just no comparison between Dean and Maris who is well short of HOF standards.

[mortimer brewster]

Why is Jim Bunning in the Hall? One twenty win season (exactly 20) and 4 19 win seasons. .549 winning pct and a career era of 3.27 in a pitcher friendly era.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by mortimer brewster

Why is Jim Bunning in the Hall? One twenty win season (exactly 20) and 4 19 win seasons. .549 winning pct and a career era of 3.27 in a pitcher friendly era.

He had been in Congress from Kentucky for 9 years, and was 2-3 years away from becoming a US Senator at the time of his VC HOF election. I'm not saying that had anything to do with it. But not saying it didn't either. It was not the worst PR move at the time that the folks responsible for Cooperstown could have made.