19th Century Memorabilia

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by GaryPassamonte

Mark- REA does have a small group of post 1900 memorabilia, but point well taken on the current auction not being a premier event. REA has had a smaller and smaller 19th century memorabilia offering in recent years. Unfortunately, I wasn't collecting memorabilia when the selection was diverse and contained on many pages in the catalog.

Crap, you're right...

I could have sworn their official announcement of these auctions said "cards only", but I stand corrected. I checked the current memorabilia offerings and it was very sparse, IMHO. Thanks for the clarification!

[bgar3]

Recently picked up a small collection of pre 1880 images, including these 3 cdvs.
I don’t have any confirmed information on any of them as far as teams or id’s, other than photographer information on 2 of them. However, I have found a reference to a Hamilton Ohio Resolutes who played the 1870 Cincinnati Red Stockings, losing badly. There is a star on his cap.
The earliest, possibly circa 1860 or so, is interesting as a it depicts a transitional batting stance between cricket and base ball.
Appreciate any thoughts or help.

[bgar3]

1871 Central Base Ball Club, Plainfield NJ, players are identified
Circa 1878 Chicago area team by renowned photographer Carlos Gentile
1878 Washington and Lee team. Apparently, Sykes, their pitcher, used the curve ball for the first time in a college game in the South. UVA felt cheated.
Sykes learned the curve from Bobby Mathews.
Help appreciated on information.

[GaryPassamonte]

It's always nice to see images I've never seen. The transitional bating stance cdv sure does look early. This "Lon Kinch" cdv is the only other one I've seen with the "stance." The Kinch cdv is no longer in my collection.
The Plainfield cdv looks very familiar.

[bgar3]

Gary, I had seen that Kinch and that helped me decide I wanted this one.
I like them all, but the Lainfield and stance ones are my current favorites.
I still have 2 stereoviews to add.

[bgar3]

These are the last images of the group I picked up.
A game being played on the beach in Nantasket, Massachusetts, in front of the Rockland house, circa 1875-78 I think.
A Williston Academy gymnasium game in progress to go with 2 other Williston Academy images I already had with players in a line, not a game. In 1996, the Rucker auction speculated that the image depicts the 1870 Cincinnati Red Stockings practicing on their tour. I have no evidence of that, but they are very well attired and I think there may be a resemblance to a couple known players, but I don’t think I can ever prove a connection, although I am hopeful someone can help. This is encased in glass, sealed by copper.

[drcy]

Originally Posted by bgar3

Recently picked up a small collection of pre 1880 images, including these 3 cdvs.
I don’t have any confirmed information on any of them as far as teams or id’s, other than photographer information on 2 of them. However, I have found a reference to a Hamilton Ohio Resolutes who played the 1870 Cincinnati Red Stockings, losing badly. There is a star on his cap.
The earliest, possibly circa 1860 or so, is interesting as a it depicts a transitional batting stance between cricket and base ball.
Appreciate any thoughts or help.

The first one definitely is an oldie. Long pants and all. 1860 is about right. Maybe even a year or two earlier.

[bgar3]

Thank you David, I thought it might be as early as 1858 or so, but did not want to overstate it. I appreciate your opinion.

[pedodds]

Great pickups Bruce! Thanks for sharing! It's been a long time since I've seen so many great and historic images.

Originally Posted by bgar3

Recently picked up a small collection of pre 1880 images, including these 3 cdvs.
I don’t have any confirmed information on any of them as far as teams or id’s, other than photographer information on 2 of them. However, I have found a reference to a Hamilton Ohio Resolutes who played the 1870 Cincinnati Red Stockings, losing badly. There is a star on his cap.
The earliest, possibly circa 1860 or so, is interesting as a it depicts a transitional batting stance between cricket and base ball.
Appreciate any thoughts or help.