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I have a few examples. It wouldn't surprise me to see a big jump in Gehrig cards. He and Jackie transcend the hobby.
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She saw PRIDE OF THE YANKEES, and she knows all about Gehrig. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
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I really like the Gehrig exhibits cards. I think they, as well as the Jimmie Foxx are underrated. Here's a couple of my Gehrig exhibits.
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His cards (and premiums
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I've been reading "Cobb Would Have Caught It" and there's an interview in there from Doc Cramer given in 1986.
He said, "Nobody liked Gehrig, not even his own players. I know that to be a fact. Tony Lazzeri, he couldn't stand to be near him. He was too cheap, that's what it was. And he was self-centered. I always got along with him. He'd have a beer and drink with you, if you bought it. The only guy that got along with him was Bill Dickey. They roomed together. |
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Great exhibits Paul and That should say swag on Leon’s premium
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Exhibits are beautiful cards. And I feel Foxx as a whole, is pretty underrated to collect. His stuff is pretty cheap in comparison to the other sluggers of his day.
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Lou Gehrig and Teddy Ballgame IMO. If Williams played today he hit .400
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I had a '34 Goudey #61 years ago that I wish I'd kept. Great colors and great pose. And I also believe that Gehrig transcends the hobby and will continue to rise with Jackie, Clemente, and a handful of others after Mantle and Ruth level off.
I recently got this card, as it was a true case of "buy the card and not the holder". Just a great looking card that the creases don't detract from too much. ![]() |
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This is a few months old thread but thought I would revive it after reading "Luckiest Man" by Jonathan Eig. Great well-written book I thought. Also, just over a week away for the 1st Lou Gehrig Day on June 2nd.
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I'd like this to go to a Lou Gehrig fan if they want to add it to their collection and figured this thread is where a Gehrig fan would be. Now mind you obviously the one played in Yankee Stadium that day tends to fetch slightly more then this
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515 gulp..........but......it's still pretty cool that it's the same date in history in one of baseball's other hallowed grounds. And unless you have $40 grand to spend on the other one this is a very cool alternative/placeholder : ) and a Cub hit 3 HR's in a game vs the Cardinals that day, so not a bad stub on game alone. But that infamous date, that's the thing! Every true baseball fan knows it. If you are talking to someone and ask them that question and they don't know it, just shake your head and walk away. They're no fan of the game. Not a die-hard anyway. $115 bucks shipped.....hey, beats 40K PSA has only 3 tickets graded from that famous date, 2 Yankees, obviously the big guys, and 1 Athletics DH vs Boston, this Wrigley Field one would be the 4th if you were to so choose to do, or don't, doesn't need it. If interested just message me - no need to keep the thread going with a reply - just pm me if you want to add it to your Lou Collection - cool sidepiece. Last edited by Shoeless Moe; 05-24-2021 at 07:29 PM. |
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My only Lou
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I'm surprised few have responded to the original question. I believe Jimmie Foxx is far more underrated than Lou Gehrig. Just look at the difference between their stats, and compare it to the difference between their card prices. I'm not saying Foxx was better, but he was way closer than the current card prices indicate. To a lesser degree, the same could be said about Hank Greenberg. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I would say Bill Terry and George Sisler — first basemen who were contemporaries of Gehrig — are vastly overrated.
Here are my only Gehrig cards, one of which is technically 1/4 of a card, but I like it anyway ... |
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I think Foxx's flame out has a lot to do with his card sales. Doesn't help that he wasn't part of some significant all time team either. He played in some World Series early on but I'm not sure anyone remembers them for anything iconic like Murderers Row or something like that.
I DO think Foxx benefits from fantastic nicknames and his association with League of Their Own. |
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I second the choice of Foxx, there's a good argument there though Foxx ends up priced about where he should relative to other stars of the 20's and 30's.
Gehrig is still generally regarded as the greatest 1B of all time. He remains a household name among baseball fans. The only player in his time period that outsells him is Babe Ruth, who was clearly better than Gehrig. I do not see how he can thus really be considered underrated, either in cards or in baseball history. |
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It's hard to call someone who is universally regarded as the best 1B of all time underrated. Agree that Foxx is more so, but I can't agree that he wasn't part of all time great teams. I consider the A's teams from 1928 to 1931 to be absolutely iconic, with Grove, Foxx, Simmons, and Cochrane leading the way as top tier all-time talents. The first two '33 Goudeys I ever bought, and the only two I owned for 10+ years, were Foxx and Simmons, because of my fascination with this dynasty.
EDIT: and which still causes me to do things like this without even realizing it. I just noticed this last week when I was consolidating. Oops ![]() ![]()
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But do you think that admiration is universal to casual fans in the same way Murderers Row or the Miracle Mets are?
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Foxx . 325/.428/.609 OPS+ 160 For those that like WAR Gehrig 114.1 in 17 seasons with only 14 full seasons Those 14 full seasons Gehrig had 113.8 WAR or 8.12 WAR per season. Foxx 93.9 in 20 seasons. Foxx's best 14 seasons averaged 6.7 WAR. Gehrig was also a monster in the postseason with 6 WS wins in 7 tries hitting . 361/.483/.731. It really isn't close. Collectors want to collect the best. For prewar it is Wagner, Cobb, Ruth and Gehrig. Tier 2 players are going to trail behind badly. |
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One nice way to compare players of varied careers is to look at 7 year peak WAR:
Gehrig 68.1 Pujols 61.7 Foxx 58.5 The rest are substantially below these three. Top 3 in WAR for 1B are Gehrig, Pujols and Foxx. No one can really contest Gehrig's status as the GOAT, though I do not agree that Foxx is not a first tier HOFer; the #3 guy has to be. I guess the question is more whether Foxx cards are undervalued based on his place in baseball history. Of course, that question assumes that card values correlate directly with on-field performance, which is not always the case. Beloved and iconic status can come from other sources besides just stats (hello, Nolan Ryan, #24 in WAR; Mel Ott and Frank Robinson have better career WAR than Roberto Clemente; guess which right-fielder is on a stamp?).
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As far as card values, people are drawn to the top few names. Players down the list are going to increase in value much slower. I don't think Foxx cards are undervalued at all. In 1933 Goudey after Ruth and Gehrig (and Lajoie) comes Foxx, Hornsby and Dean. He isn't like Eddie Collins who sells for less than many lesser players in t206. |
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One of the best.
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I agree that Gehrig was one of the top ten greatest players in the history of the game. But what makes Gehrig so special was his character. His 1939 speech in Yankee Stadium was a sports classic. Fortunately, I have my two favorite Gehrig cards the 33G #92 and the 34G #37. He may be underrated by baseball card collectors but not by people who are familiar with the history of the game and its players. He will always be one of my favorite players.
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