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Old 12-17-2020, 09:56 AM
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Fair point, and I agree. This case is a raw card.
You should be good to go then.
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If it's a lower condition card, I always ask if there are any creases or wrinkles if I don't see any in the scans. What really drives me nuts is when I ask and get a response of no. Then when the card arrives I see a noticeable crease or wrinkle. That tells me that the seller obviously didn't even bother to look and verify. SMH!

Good luck. I hope this gets resolved for you.
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Not sure in the OP's case if the buyer provided a grade for the card in their listing or not. As far as etiquette in this situation, it would be dependent on if a grade describing the card's condition was provided.
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Not sure in the OP's case if the buyer provided a grade for the card in their listing or not. As far as etiquette in this situation, it would be dependent on if a grade describing the card's condition was provided.
No substantive information about the condition was provided in the description. No grade. But again - the crease was hidden in the photos, so relying on the photos was not adequate for disclosure.
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Even if it was graded, the crease should be disclosed by any good seller. You are bidding on the card... not a grader's random opinion. I am shocked by the amount of lazy eBay sellers who say nothing at all about the card, except to give the TPG grade.

The hobby took a big turn for the worse, when this lazy reliance on TPG opinion became prevalent. I do not bid with sellers who simply tell you the assigned grade (which you can easily see for yourself anyway). What you cannot often see are surface wrinkles and creases that fail to show up in scans. It is in no way unreasonable to expect seller's to include the card's attributes in their description.

You can return it for ANY reason, graded or not. Based on the pushback you're getting, I would pursue a full refund, block him, and then move on.
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If it's a lower condition card, I always ask if there are any creases or wrinkles if I don't see any in the scans.
That's a good policy, of course, and I try to do so when time permits as well. But it can't be required as a default of all buyers.

In this case, it's a pretty obvious crease, too - I'm surprised it didn't show up in the photos (I just triple-checked). Even the dead-on photo of the corner where it is. Probably because it goes over a light blue/white sky background.
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Just file a Not as Described claim. The seller will have no choice but to issue a refund.
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