1979 Gretzky's PSA 10

[Tomi]

Originally Posted by shagrotn77

Gretzky is the GOAT in any team sport and it's not even close. I'm so tired of the Bobby Orr guys trying to push their greatest of all time agenda. Yes, he was spectacular...for 6 years. Gretzky checks every damn box when it comes to greatness. Regular season records. Career records. Championships. Making his teammates better. People like to say he wasn't great on defense. Guess what - he wasn't paid to play defense!!!

9 years not 6. The GOAT is a 5 tool player, something Gretzky never was. His numbers were nothing in LA compared to what he did in Edmonton where everyone on his line was an all star. At least Gretzky was able to win many Lady Bing trophies as the nicest player.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by Tomi

9 years not 6. The GOAT is a 5 tool player, something Gretzky never was. His numbers were nothing in LA compared to what he did in Edmonton where everyone on his line was an all star. At least Gretzky was able to win many Lady Bing trophies as the nicest player.

everyone on his line was an all-star. true. but another thing Gretzky is the all-time leader in is short-handed goals- and again its not close. So he was dominant with only 1/2 of those all-stars.

[shagrotn77]

Originally Posted by Tomi

9 years not 6. The GOAT is a 5 tool player, something Gretzky never was. His numbers were nothing in LA compared to what he did in Edmonton where everyone on his line was an all star. At least Gretzky was able to win many Lady Bing trophies as the nicest player.

I said Orr was spectacular for 6 years. Do you really think he was amazing in 1966, 1967 and 1968 when he scored 41, 31 and 64 points? So that leaves 1969-1974. An other-worldly run for a defenseman, for sure, but 6 spectacular years is not nearly enough for a player to be considered the GOAT.