1948/49 Leaf Paper Stock

[Exhibitman]

w/r/t the boxing set the white stock was first. I say this because every single Graziano I've ever seen in person (and I've seen most of the known examples in person) has been on white stock.

[samosa4u]

Adam, can you post some gray vs. white Leaf boxing cards? I want to see how different they look from each other.

One big problem I encounter frequently is that sellers like to juice up their scans. This only makes things more difficult for me.

[samosa4u]

Here is an example of what I'm talking about:

https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/195...umbnail-071515

I have owned so many Bobby Hull rookies in my life and I currently have four or five examples in my possession. When I saw this card, I started laughing! Shame on you, Heritage!

[tedzan]

The 1948 LEAF Boxing set was issued in the Fall of 1948. I remember collecting these boxing cards back then. But I don't expect some of you
to take my word for this timeline.
Anyhow, the Tony Zale bio confirms my date line. His fight vs. Marcel Cerdan (Sept 21, 1948) in which he lost is noted on the back of his card.

Adam W. is correct, the WHITE cardboard stock was first. This was true also for LEAF's Football set in 1948. In 1949, LEAF switched to printing
their Sportscards on GRAY cardboard stock. The 1949 LEAF Baseball and Football sets are printed ONLY on GRAY cardboard stock.

Furthermore, the 1948 LEAF Boxing and Football cards were so popular, that LEAF continued printing them till the Spring of 1949. Resulting in
these two sets having been printed on both WHITE and GRAY cardboard.

Check-out the two Zale cards in my scan. Note the difference the brightness of the WHITE cardboard version vs. the Gray cardboard one. This
is true for all 49 cards in this Boxing set.






TED Z

T206 Reference
.

[samosa4u]

Ted! What a surprise! Thanks for clarifying that.

Why does that PSA 4.5 Jackie (that I posed above) appear so white? Is it because a) it was stored well over the decades and didn't tone like the others did or b) the seller juiced up the scan by using Photoshop?

[Exhibitman]

I don't really have any scans; I disliked the gray stock cards and basically never bothered to collect them.

One weird thing I've noticed is that the missing ink and major printing error cards I've come across are nearly all white stock but the blank backs have been predominantly gray stock. No idea if this holds outside my experience.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I don't really have any scans; I disliked the gray stock cards and basically never bothered to collect them.

One weird thing I've noticed is that the missing ink and major printing error cards I've come across are nearly all white stock but the blank backs have been predominantly gray stock. No idea if this holds outside my experience.

Adam

I, too, have not seen a WHITE cardboard LEAF Boxing card with a Blank-back. I have had several 100's of these LEAF cards in order to complete two sets (WHITE and GRAY).

However, I have (or have seen) several GRAY cardboard Blank-back cards.

My guess regarding this peculiarity is....due to rushed production of these cards during their final press run(s) in early Spring 1949 (GRAY cardboard production), the printing
of their backs was omitted. Stay tuned for an example which I will post when I scan the cards.


TED Z

T206 Reference
.