Ebay reneger report!

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Fred

Just curious, was it one of those offers that ebay records? If so, isn't the person that made the offer which is accepted by the seller the same as winning the auction? For example,item description indicates "or best offer". If the offer is accepted, then doesn't that indicate there's an agreement to buy?

But Ebay is so buyer supportive and seller unsuportive that the buyer can still "change their mind" - Ebay actually has that listed as a reason to cancel a transaction!!! Someone really needs to build a new auction site with elements of the "old days" of Ebay and a much more balanced platform between buyers and sellers.

[pokerplyr80]

Even if you could force the buyer to pay and complete the transaction having it end with a not as described return and also being out shipping costs would probably be your best case scenario. Blocking and moving on seems to be the best option to me.

[Fred]

I haven't sold anything on fleabay in a while and I pay for what I win so I'm a little ignorant here.

Does this mean that you can win an auction on fleabay and then decide that you don't want it (reneg) and there are no consequences from fleabay?

There's a thread about a new TPG. Seems like the hobby could use a new DIY auction site that doesn't put up with BS.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by Fred

I haven't sold anything on fleabay in a while and I pay for what I win so I'm a little ignorant here.

Does this mean that you can win an auction on fleabay and then decide that you don't want it (reneg) and there are no consequences from fleabay?

There's a thread about a new TPG. Seems like the hobby could use a new DIY auction site that doesn't put up with BS.

If the buyer changes his mind and the seller states in his listing that he does not accept returns, then the seller can deny the buyers request. Just read it in ebays rules for buyers who changed their minds

[wondo]

Thank you, Howard!

[thecatspajamas]

Generally speaking, if a buyer doesn't want to pay, they won't pay. You can go though the unpaid item process to cancel out the transaction and get your fees back, in which case eBay gives the buyer an "unpaid item strike," but they will never MAKE a buyer pay. It's possible that a habitual reneger may eventually get booted, but that is of little consolation to the jilted sellers they stiffed along the way.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by cammb

If the buyer changes his mind and the seller states in his listing that he does not accept returns, then the seller can deny the buyers request. Just read it in ebays rules for buyers who changed their minds

True but if sellers force buyers to pay for an item, they run the risk of having the buyer damage the item and file a "item not as described" claim, which a buyer will win the vast majority of the time. It does not matter if sellers accept returns or not. Its just best to cancel the order, block the buyer and move on.

[bigfanNY]

I have a similar issue right now. I purchased a box of Ben Baller Topps Chrome through my Montgomery 582 account. I listed it after Topps confirmed. The box sells and the Buyer pays for the box. The day Topps started shipping (Friday) I get a message that the buyer wants to cancel the sale because he cannot wait any longer. I check and prices for the box dropped about $100. So the buyer asks to cancel the sale because he changed his mind. I deny the request and I have listed that I dont accept returns. Ebay closed the request. Then the buyer files a non recipt claim. I will get the box today and plan on shipping it out same day. Now according to Ebay rules he already had his shot at asking for a return. So in theory I should be safe to ship this and not expect him to damage box and ask for return. What upsets me most is this guy has 3,000+ Feedback and deals in this stuff all the time. I still haven't decided what I will do when box arrives later. I dont want anyone damaging an expensive $750 box of cards. But what happened to living up to your word?

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

I have a similar issue right now. I purchased a box of Ben Baller Topps Chrome through my Montgomery 582 account. I listed it after Topps confirmed. The box sells and the Buyer pays for the box. The day Topps started shipping (Friday) I get a message that the buyer wants to cancel the sale because he cannot wait any longer. I check and prices for the box dropped about $100. So the buyer asks to cancel the sale because he changed his mind. I deny the request and I have listed that I dont accept returns. Ebay closed the request. Then the buyer files a non recipt claim. I will get the box today and plan on shipping it out same day. Now according to Ebay rules he already had his shot at asking for a return. So in theory I should be safe to ship this and not expect him to damage box and ask for return. What upsets me most is this guy has 3,000+ Feedback and deals in this stuff all the time. I still haven't decided what I will do when box arrives later. I dont want anyone damaging an expensive $750 box of cards. But what happened to living up to your word?

Remember, he can also file a claim with PayPal or his credit card company or bank. You should definitely insure it and pay for Signature Required just to cover yourself.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

I have a similar issue right now. I purchased a box of Ben Baller Topps Chrome through my Montgomery 582 account. I listed it after Topps confirmed. The box sells and the Buyer pays for the box. The day Topps started shipping (Friday) I get a message that the buyer wants to cancel the sale because he cannot wait any longer. I check and prices for the box dropped about $100. So the buyer asks to cancel the sale because he changed his mind. I deny the request and I have listed that I dont accept returns. Ebay closed the request. Then the buyer files a non recipt claim. I will get the box today and plan on shipping it out same day. Now according to Ebay rules he already had his shot at asking for a return. So in theory I should be safe to ship this and not expect him to damage box and ask for return. What upsets me most is this guy has 3,000+ Feedback and deals in this stuff all the time. I still haven't decided what I will do when box arrives later. I dont want anyone damaging an expensive $750 box of cards. But what happened to living up to your word?

So you sold him something you didn't have in hand - as of your post, you still don't have it. Isn't there an ebay rule against selling things and accepting payment when you don't actually have the item?

What if it gets damaged or lost on the way to you?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

. already asked

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Jim65

True but if sellers force buyers to pay for an item, they run the risk of having the buyer damage the item and file a "item not as described" claim, which a buyer will win the vast majority of the time. It does not matter if sellers accept returns or not. Its just best to cancel the order, block the buyer and move on.

right shouldnt live and die on one buyer..if there is only one buyer at or near your price ever that means your price is too high and anyone willing to pay it are going to have issues....