1963 Topps checklist question

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by toppcat

Ah, I missed that-thanks. Kinda weird though, right? Makes you wonder if there was a production issue of some kind.

I think it was done strictly out of the necessity to have a full 22 card color block to fill out a complete sheet and they probably didn’t have the time to create the new cards and this was the easiest and quickest solution at the time.

[vrechek]

Fun stuff, especially 57 years later. I noted -
Sugar's Bible from 1977 has the last series starting at #525,
Beckett #3 from 1981 starts it at #507 (as per the Topps checklist #509)
Beckett #14 from 1992 starts it at #523
SCD Catalog from 1999 starts it at #523
SCD Catalog from 2016 dodges it all by going from 447-576 for the high series
PSA today starts it at #523
No one much bothers with the reprinted checklist #509 issue.
Len Brown of Topps mentioned to me the need to match up the bases in this set like they did with the 1953s to avoid base colors bleeding over to where they shouldn't be.
Just looking at the last printing, it sure makes sense to me that they likely printed #509 along with #512 - #576 to have 66 cards with nicely matched bases - 22 of each color. I don't think the circle insets were as critical since I see some from an uncut sheet in the first series that don't all match.

Interesting also that the extra 11 cards mentioned in Series 5 are all found with cropping variations.
Yes, the bases should match up - except when they don't as in the case of #21, #28, #40 and #105 which seem to have some wrong adjacent base colors on miscuts.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by vrechek

I don't think the circle insets were as critical since I see some from an uncut sheet in the first series that don't all match.

Here is a scan of the first series sheet. Can you please tell me which player card has an inset circle color that doesn't match up to the other player cards in the same horizontal row? It doesn't apply to manager cards, team cards, multi player rookie cards, multi player special cards, or checklists. Just mention the horizontal row number and which card it is on that row. ETA: There is least one card on this sheet that has a rookie trophy in place of the inset circle, Ed Charles.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by vrechek

Yes, the bases should match up - except when they don't as in the case of #21, #28, #40 and #105 which seem to have some wrong adjacent base colors on miscuts.

You are referring to cards that are on the outer edge of the sheet and if they are off-center a certain way will show an anomaly of the printing sheet, it has nothing to do with the card that is above, below, or beside it. There are no cards to that side of them. ETA: there are people that try to sell these as variations on eBay, which I don't agree with. I have seen them with different colors, blue, yellow, and white.

[Cliff Bowman]

I will show all five 22 card color blocks from the first series sheet. I will have to show each one in a separate post to maximize the size. This first one shows red based cards with yellow inset circles. Can anyone spot a player card with the wrong color inset circle? ETA: the last card on the first row is a team card and does not follow the player card pattern.

[Cliff Bowman]

This is the second 22 card color block. They are blue based with red inset circles. The second card is Ed Charles with a rookie trophy. Does anyone see a player card that does not have a red inset circle other than the Charles?

[Cliff Bowman]

This is the third 22 card color block on the first series sheet. They are all yellow based with red inset circles. Does anyone see a player card that does not have a red inset circle?

[Cliff Bowman]

This is the fourth 22 card color block from the first series sheet. All 22 cards are green based, the top row has all player cards with yellow inset circles, the bottom row has all player cards with red inset circles. Does anyone see a player card with the wrong color inset circle?