Now on Ebay! 1950's Brooklyn Dodgers Signed Baseball, Jackie Robinson, Campanella

[luciobar1980]

Now on Ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1950-s-Broo...cAAOSwkEFeTxM5

[benjulmag]

If I'm a betting man I would bet 100% of the signatures are clubhouse.

[luciobar1980]

I really find that hard to believe! How could all those separate signatures look so similar to their real counterparts? Did these teams go very out of their way to have people signing that could virtually duplicate the signatures of all these players? Maybe they did, I'm pretty naive to this. Interesting nonetheless. I leave it to the bidders to decide...

Originally Posted by benjulmag

If I'm a betting man I would bet 100% of the signatures are clubhouse.

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

I really find that hard to believe! How could all those separate signatures look so similar to their real counterparts? Did these teams go very out of their way to have people signing that could virtually duplicate the signatures of all these players? Maybe they did, I'm pretty naive to this. Interesting nonetheless. I leave it to the bidders to decide...

Can't really speak as to other teams, but the Brooklyn Dodgers had a clubhouse attendant named Charlie The Brow DiGiovanna who often signed for the players, sometimes just a few signatures, sometimes the whole ball. He was so good, some of the players couldn't tell if they had signed or he had. But there are subtle differences. The one you have on ebay is 100% signed by him. It is a little unusual since he usually had more signatures on the ball, and each signature was a little smaller than yours, but they are definitely his signatures IMO. These balls can still go for $100-200, so you never know.

Here's a link to an article about him: https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...row-digiovanna

[luciobar1980]

Wow, that's crazy. Interesting. That's a real talent right there.

Originally Posted by rlevy

Can't really speak as to other teams, but the Brooklyn Dodgers had a clubhouse attendant named Charlie The Brow DiGiovanna who often signed for the players, sometimes just a few signatures, sometimes the whole ball. He was so good, some of the players couldn't tell if they had signed or he had. But there are subtle differences. The one you have on ebay is 100% signed by him. It is a little unusual since he usually had more signatures on the ball, and each signature was a little smaller than yours, but they are definitely his signatures IMO. These balls can still go for $100-200, so you never know.

Here's a link to an article about him: http://https://www.psacard.com/artic...row-digiovanna
Rick

[luciobar1980]

That's pretty cool, I guess either way the ball is an interesting piece. You link didn't work but here it is:

https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...row-digiovanna

[earlywynnfan]

So, not to be a jerk or anything, but you bought a ball PSA'd as clubhouse. The seller felt it didn't have enough value to pay to have it returned. The opinions on here are clubhouse, esp. the Jackie. You even say you don't like the Jackie.

So what do you do? You post it on ebay saying "PSA says clubhouse, but I say most of the autos are real." You even list the Jackie that you don't like as the featured player! Not quite a lie, but I'd say very far from full disclosure. You specifically started this thread because you didn't like how the original seller listed this, and what do you do? You relist it with just as much shadiness. Looks like yet another ebay seller posting enough info to cover your a** with true collectors, but just maybe you'll catch a fish.

IMHO, this is crap. My ebay handle is earlywynnfan. Please block me so I don't accidentally bid with you.

Ken

[bounce]

Originally Posted by benjulmag

If I'm a betting man I would bet 100% of the signatures are clubhouse.

Agree, all of these are clubhouse signatures. That's why PSA wrote their cert the way they did.

The pen pressure from one signature to the next is very close - resulting in similar "thickness" of each of the autographs. Anyone who collects autographs extensively, particularly on baseballs, would know that's just not how it goes. Every player signs with a different pressure, speed, etc.

This one doesn't have that, which is a tell tale sign of "clubhouse" signatures.

[aelefson]

Lucio, I do appreciate you ending the previous listing and changing the description and the title in the new listing. You do make it clearer than before regarding the clubhouse signatures.

Alan