Hey, pennant guys

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Bignoff

[attach]379158 sorry about the technical difficulties, but was wondering about the history of this 26 inch oddball

Sweeeeeeet…. did you win it? I was high underbidder, and was sad to lose out.

Looks to be late 1940s - early '50s, and a rare depiction of the mischievous Brownie. I've only seen it a couple of times in 30+ years of collecting pennants. Great score, if you got it!

[thetahat]

So it turns out I know nothing about pennants. Looking through my tubs, I came across others with the exact same 1969 trademark, but not cloth. One is softer felt (Expos) and the other is board-stiff (Padres). So I am guessing that trademark was also used beyond 1969. But then I don’t know how that explains pennants with the same TM but dated 1970.

Here’s my question. Did the same company make both Pilots pennants? My guess is ‘no’.

[perezfan]

Greg- I have that white/cream colored Padres pennant, but it's on the nice soft cloth material you're seeking. I believe it to be the earliest Padres Pennant, and their best (IMHO). Earliest version of "The Swinging Friar" and it has stayed perfectly clean, which is saying something for a white pennant. Never bleached, no fraying, and remains in great shape.

While I really like it, I could sell/trade it to you (for a reasonable price) if you're interested. I need to thin out, and seems like this one belongs with you. Just PM if interested.

Also... I would vote that those 2 Pilots Pennants are indeed from different makers.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Greg- I have that white/cream colored Padres pennant, but it's on the nice soft cloth material you're seeking. I believe it to be the earliest Padres Pennant, and their best (IMHO). Earliest version of "The Swinging Friar" and it has stayed perfectly clean, which is saying something for a white pennant. Never bleached, no fraying, and remains in great shape.

While I really like it, I could sell/trade it to you (for a reasonable price) if you're interested. I need to thin out, and seems like this one belongs with you. Just PM if interested.

Also... I would vote that those 2 Pilots Pennants are indeed from different makers.

Thanks Mark! Yes I think that’s their first pennant, too ...

[Bignoff]

Yes , that was me. I’m always on the hunt for the Browns and couldn’t help myself.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Bignoff

Yes , that was me. I’m always on the hunt for the Browns and couldn’t help myself.

Sweet... Awesome Brownie Mascot... Congrats!

[perezfan]

When digging through some bins today, I found a couple of pennants pertinent to the recent discussion.

First is the "alternate" version Red Sox from the amazing 1951 series.

Second is a rare version 1940s-'50s Browns Pennant with an unusual Pixie Mascot. Has anybody ever seen this one before? I cannot recall seeing another.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

When digging through some bins today, I found a couple of pennants pertinent to the recent discussion.

First is the "alternate" version Red Sox from the amazing 1951 series.

Second is a rare version 1940s-'50s Browns Pennant with an unusual Pixie Mascot. Has anybody ever seen this one before? I cannot recall seeing another.

Mark, those are two dandies, the Red Sox is the more difficult from that series and it better fits the general design. The Browns is from another distinct set, it reminds me of the Brooklyn pennant with players names in a graphic with bunting (decorative bunting that is). I wonder if it’s the same maker as this one ...

[Bumpus Jones]

Super cool pennants Mark!

[Bignoff]

Originally Posted by perezfan

When digging through some bins today, I found a couple of pennants pertinent to the recent discussion.

First is the "alternate" version Red Sox from the amazing 1951 series.

Second is a rare version 1940s-'50s Browns Pennant with an unusual Pixie Mascot. Has anybody ever seen this one before? I cannot recall seeing another.

The Browns pennant is amazing! Love seeing these unique pennants

[Fballguy]

I must be doing something wrong...

I've been collecting pennants for a long time now...and I haven't really given much thought to this...but it is by far the number one question I get asked when I try to sell one:

Does it have pin holes?

Does anyone really care if a pennant has pin holes? It's SUPPOSED to have them. Is there some arbitrary increment we apply to the value if it doesn't have them? You sure as hell can't tell if a pennant has pin holes unless you look really close. Has anyone ever...in the history of pennants not bought one because it had pin holes? I think this each and every time I find myself holding a pennant up to a light to see if it has #$@! pin holes for some worried collector. Who planted this hair brained idea in collectors heads that pennants...god forbid...shouldn't have pin holes?

Missing tassels...I get.

Moth eaten spine...I get.

Ripped/missing tip...I get

Stains...I get

Tears...I get

Cracked graphics...I get

But who cares about #$@! pin holes?

Am I right?

Thanks for indulging me.

PS...If you're worried about pin holes, please stop.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I must be doing something wrong...

I've been collecting pennants for a long time now...and I haven't really given much thought to this...but it is by far the number one question I get asked when I try to sell one:

Does it have pin holes?

Does anyone really care if a pennant has pin holes? It's SUPPOSED to have them. Is there some arbitrary increment we apply to the value if it doesn't have them? You sure as hell can't tell if a pennant has pin holes unless you look really close. Has anyone ever...in the history of pennants not bought one because it had pin holes? I think this each and every time I find myself holding a pennant up to a light to see if it has #$@! pin holes for some worried collector. Who planted this hair brained idea in collectors heads that pennants...god forbid...shouldn't have pin holes?

Missing tassels...I get.

Moth eaten spine...I get.

Ripped/missing tip...I get

Stains...I get

Tears...I get

Cracked graphics...I get

But who cares about #$@! pin holes?

Am I right?

Thanks for indulging me.

PS...If you're worried about pin holes, please stop.

Rob ... I’m with you. In fact I don’t mind many of the things you mentioned, as long as they look nice, and I’d figure in the damage in the price I would pay. I can live with missing tassels if it’s the bottom pair and I get a good deal. Moth eaten spine? No. Ripped/missing tip? Depends. If it’s the very tip, not a dealbreaker. I know many pennants were made with a blunt tip. I’ve got a mint 55 Dodgers pennant with what looks like a slightly squared off tip but it’s the full length and barely fits in my holder. Let’s hope pennant collecting doesn’t go the way baseball cards went. Stains? No. Tears? No. Cracked graphics? Maybe if not paint loss. Pinholes? Of course no problem! If I see what is supposed to be an old pennant and it has ZERO flaws? I’d immediately think fugazi. Pennants are meant to be displayed!