1970s baseball pinbacks

[hcv123]

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=166056&page=6

There are references to these pins starting form post 125 in the linked thread. I believe there are 2 different Red Sox issues - 1 that is part of the issue being discussed ( I owned a Yaz) and one that look similar, but was different and is a bit more plentiful - partially explaining why people tend to see more Red Sox that they believe are part of this issue. The image quality is not as good on the alternative Red Sox one.

[Chris-Counts]

Not only has this thread inspired me to start collecting pinbacks and buttons, but is has me interested in two other sets from the 1970s, including one that continued on into the 1980s.

I'm surprised by how little information I can find online about any of these sets. Although both seem to be far more common than the c. 1971 set discussed in this thread, distribution appears uneven. The Clemente button posted below comes from an early 1970s set, while Monte Irvin seems to be from 1978. The Oscar Gamble button and a couple hundred others likely come from about 1978 to 1981. There are others that clearly come from later than 1981, but the photos aren't nearly as good.

By the way, the early 1970s set, with the black nameplates, includes some of the same Cubs images as the 1971 set.

Can anybody tell more about these, or point me toward a link for more information? Thanks, Chris

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Chris Counts

I'm surprised by how little information I can find online about any of these sets. Although both seem to be far more common than the c. 1971 set discussed in this thread, distribution appears uneven. The Clemente button posted below comes from an early 1970s set, while Monte Irvin seems to be from 1978. The Oscar Gamble button and a couple hundred others likely come from about 1978 to 1981. There are others that clearly come from later than 1981, but the photos aren't nearly as good.
Can anybody tell more about these, or point me toward a link for more information? Thanks, Chris

A member here, DaClyde, has an excellent checklist of the 1978-198? numbered baseball pins including the Hall Of Fame set, I have contributed a few to it as I find them on the internet. https://clydes-stalecards.blogspot.c...rts-photo.html

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Chris Counts

By the way, the early 1970s set, with the black nameplates, includes some of the same Cubs images as the 1971 set

You're right, they also reused the images on the Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger, and Billy Williams pins. I wouldn't be surprised if they also did it with at least Glenn Beckert. Note that both Jenkins and Kessinger have their names misspelled.

[ooo-ribay]

You are "on it," Cliff! Latest list looks like:

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Roof, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Callison, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Dodgers - Allen

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Siebert, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard.

White Sox - John, Melton, Reichardt, Richard

Looks like 50 known, with Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

[MK]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

You're right, they also reused the images on the Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger, and Billy Williams pins. I wouldn't be surprised if they also did it with at least Glenn Beckert. Note that both Jenkins and Kessinger have their names misspelled.

But there were two different poses of Kessinger.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by MK

But there were two different poses of Kessinger.

Yes, there were two different pins of a handful of Cubs, Jose Cardenal, Burt Hooton, Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger, Rick Monday, and Ron Santo. My theory is that one of each are 1973 issues and the other half are 1974 issues. I believe the misspelled Hooton, misspelled Kessinger, misspelled Jenkins (Cubs), Santo (Cubs), closeup Cardenal, and closeup Monday are 1973 issues, and the correct Hooton, correct Kessinger, correct Jenkins (Rangers), Santo (White Sox), wide shot Cardenal, and wide shot Monday are 1974 issues.

[MK]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Yes, there were two different pins of a handful of Cubs, Jose Cardenal, Burt Hooton, Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger, Rick Monday, and Ron Santo. My theory is that one of each are 1973 issues and the other half are 1974 issues. I believe the misspelled Hooton, misspelled Kessinger, misspelled Jenkins (Cubs), Santo (Cubs), closeup Cardenal, and closeup Monday are 1973 issues, and the correct Hooton, correct Kessinger, correct Jenkins (Rangers), Santo (White Sox), wide shot Cardenal, and wide shot Monday are 1974 issues.

Yes, but they used the same photo for the Cardenal, Hooten, Monday pins in the other issues, but the Kessinger is an entirely different pose. The Jenkins and Santo changed teams so they had to use different photos.

[ooo-ribay]

Without doing any real research....based on my "gut"....the Hall of Famers have been bolded.

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Roof, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Callison, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Dodgers - Allen

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Siebert, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard.

White Sox - John, Melton, Reichardt, Richard

Looks like 50 known, with Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

Who needs to be added/deleted?

[71buc]

Thanks Rob, I picked up an Ernie Banks and Frank Robinson last week. I see 11 total HOF members total on the list of known pins. Are any of them more difficult to find than the others?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by 71buc

Thanks Rob, I picked up an Ernie Banks and Frank Robinson last week. I see 11 total HOF members total on the list of known pins. Are any of them more difficult to find than the others?

Not sure. Nothing matters except the Giants!

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Without doing any real research....based on my "gut"....the Hall of Famers have been bolded.

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Roof, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Callison, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Dodgers - Allen

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Siebert, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard.

White Sox - John, Melton, Reichardt, Richard

Looks like 50 known, with Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

Who needs to be added/deleted?

Luis Aparicio and Billy Williams are HOFer’s , Vida Blue, Boog Powell, and Frank Howard are not. Also, Tom Hansen discovered the Maury Wills Dodgers pin recently and it needs to be added to the checklist.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Luis Aparicio and Billy Williams are HOFer’s , Vida Blue, Boog Powell, and Frank Howard are not.

But Harold Baines is. SMH.

New list:

Hall of Famers have been bolded.

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Roof, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Callison, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Dodgers - Allen, Wills.

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Siebert, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard.

White Sox - John, Melton, Reichardt, Richard

Looks like 50 known, with Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

Who needs to be added/deleted?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Chris Counts

Not only has this thread inspired me to start collecting pinbacks and buttons, but is has me interested in two other sets from the 1970s, including one that continued on into the 1980s.

I'm surprised by how little information I can find online about any of these sets. Although both seem to be far more common than the c. 1971 set discussed in this thread, distribution appears uneven. The Clemente button posted below comes from an early 1970s set, while Monte Irvin seems to be from 1978.

Can anybody tell more about these, or point me toward a link for more information? Thanks, Chris

A checklist of the HOF pins. I collect only Giants. Mays and Irvin can be found most everyday on ebay. Marichal is tough, Mize tougher and I'm still looking for a Wilhelm.

3” HOF Pins from Cooperstown

1 Babe Ruth
2 Lou Gehrig
3 Jackie Robinson
4 Hank Greenberg
5 Lou Boudreau
6 Al Kaline
7 Stan Musial
8 Yogi Berra
9 Ernie Banks
10 Ed Mathews
11 Whitey Ford
12 Bob Feller
13 Monte Irvin
14 Roy Campanella
15 Roberto Clemente
16 Bob Lemon
17 Sandy Koufax
18 Willie Mays
19 Bob Gibson
20 Duke Snider
21 Robin Roberts
22 Joe DiMaggio
23 Ted Williams
24 Mickey Mantle
25 Brooks Robinson
26 Frank Robinson
27 Hank Aaron
28 Juan Marichal
29 George Kell
30 Walter Alston
31 Jack Brickhouse
32 Harmon Killebrew
33 Pee Wee Reese
34 Luis Aparicio
35 Don Drysdale
36 ???????
37 Enos Slaughter
38 Johnny Mize
39 Hoyt Wilhelm
40 Lou Brock

[Cliff Bowman]

Just an excuse to get this thread back on the first page, but here is a scan of what I believe is the only one of the fifty confirmed 1971 pins to not have been shown yet on the two pin threads, Marty Pattin, along with the other known Brewers.

[Cliff Bowman]

I noticed that the 1971 Tommy Harper doesn’t have a facsimile signature, all of the other pins do, including versions of the Clemente and the Mays. I wonder if whoever took the photos required the players to sign their names on a sheet of paper so that they can then use the signature on the pins, like Topps did on their sets that had the signatures.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I noticed that the 1971 Tommy Harper doesn’t have a facsimile signature, all of the other pins do, including versions of the Clemente and the Mays. I wonder if whoever took the photos required the players to sign their names on a sheet of paper so that they can then use the signature on the pins, like Topps did on their sets that had the signatures.

It exists with and without a signature. I believe same for the Mays, but I am not positive.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by hcv123

It exists with and without a signature. I believe same for the Mays, but I am not positive.

Last page; post #128.

[Cliff Bowman]

Just about burned out looking for these on WorthPoint but did find another Brewer, Phil Roof.