Fun is doing a run of Tobacco, Candy, etc. cards...show-n-tell us of your current run

[Rhotchkiss]

Jeff and Bob, those are awesome pics! What great accomplishments. I hope you complete the runs- let me know if I can help

[tedzan]

Only 10 possible cards are needed to complete this Doolan run. I still need the BROAD LEAF 350 card. And, according
to my A-B-C-D theory the DRUM is one of the possible backs. However, no DRUM has been confirmed as of this date.








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TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Vintagecatcher]

Officially finished my 10 card Chief Meyers T205 back run today.

This project wasn't always fun. The last two backs I needed were extremely difficult to find, and I ended up settling for a little paper loss on both backs in the end.

The big surprise was picking up a front/back combination that I did not know existed when I started the run...a Chief Meyers American Beauty (green.)

Here are scans of the 8 different brands. Piedmont and Hassan had two different factories available.

Patrick

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher

Officially finished my 10 card Chief Meyers T205 back run today.

This project wasn't always fun. The last two backs I needed were extremely difficult to find, and I ended up settling for a little paper loss on both backs in the end.

The big surprise was picking up a front/back combination that I did not know existed when I started the run...a Chief Meyers American Beauty (green.)

Here are scans of the 8 different brands. Piedmont and Hassan had two different factories available.

Patrick

Patrick

Nice T205 run of Meyers cards. Thanks for sharing them with us.

A bigger surprise for you is the possibility of Meyers HINDU card.

Currently there are 23 subjects in this set confirmed with the HINDU back. And, several of them are Catchers.
But that's not why I'm suggesting this. It's the back pattern of your run which is indicative of the possibility of
Meyers having been printed with the HINDU back.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Vintagecatcher]

Thanks Ted!

I think!

Patrick

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Jeff and Bob, those are awesome pics! What great accomplishments. I hope you complete the runs- let me know if I can help

Thanks, If you see a T213-1 Rhoades at a card show buy it. I will trade well for it.

Here's a new addition...HLC

I must have the black AB and now I understand or remember that I don't need green AB.

RE: C-Mack's Bergen run. I don't know if Bergen is available with all 5 T216 backs or not. I think it is presumed that all 74 subjects come with all 5 backs, but I haven't seen that explained.

An alert reader pointed out that there is a scan of a T216 Cobb VE in the recent "Louisiana Cards" thread, so we know Cobb lean/bat comes with all 5 backs.

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

RE: C-Mack's Bergen run. I don't know if Bergen is available with all 5 T216 backs or not. I think it is presumed that all 74 subjects come with all 5 backs, but I haven't seen that explained.

An alert reader pointed out that there is a scan of a T216 Cobb VE in the recent "Louisiana Cards" thread, so we know Cobb lean/bat comes with all 5 backs.

I don't recall the specifics, but I know Steve (Brassrat) has previously posted about the print order of the different backs along with the team variations and how that can be used determine if different combinations are likely/unlikely. Unfortunately, I can't find the thread now so maybe he will comment.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

I don't recall the specifics, but I know Steve (Brassrat) has previously posted about the print order of the different backs along with the team variations and how that can be used determine if different combinations are likely/unlikely. Unfortunately, I can't find the thread now so maybe he will comment.

Thanks, here's the thread...

www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=245268

Steve was the alert reader.

[brass_rat]

Hey guys,

Bergen should only be found with the KNGO (aka "thin paper") and the VE backs. He finished up his career in 1911 with Brooklyn, so the KNIT, K123, and Mino backs are not going to be found.

There are a few examples of each the KNGO and VE out there.

Cheers,
Steve

[RCMcKenzie]

Thanks, Steve, you should write an article for Old Cardboard on these.

What I was stumbling upon and driving at is mostly what Steve is describing in the prior thread, that the captions are the same for the Virginia Extra and Never Go Out no factory cards. That they are a parallel or near parallel issue.

I was hoping we could get confirmed examples, but I really don't have enough cards or data to ask for that now. It would be nice if SGC would start to label the 5 backs.

I started in on the checklists questions when I saw a Dave Shean NGO back. I looked at my cards and I have 2. Then another Shean NGO appeared. 4 cards of one of the rarest backs, all of Shean, and I had not seen Shean with another back. It doesn't mean Shean is not found with other backs, but I would guess there should be a Shean VE.Good luck on these all, I'll check back on T216 if I see something new. Rob

[brass_rat]

Rob, I agree that Shean should be possible with a VE back, but given that he was only with Boston for 1909-1910 (and 4 games in 1912), I would not expect that he's on the K123/KNIT/Mino backs. I do find it interesting that he's one of the more common KNGO examples.

Back to the original thread purpose, here are some of my Matty cards from my back run. I haven't put together a nice scan compilation yet. I also recently added the Mello-Mint but haven't scanned it yet.