Opinion on these recently bought low grade Ruth and Gehrig Goudey - Real or Fake

[Rickyy]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Saw the recent posts and I am still not quite sure...always better to see in person. Just a point though, cards that have been taped or glued into scrapbooks, etc., quite often have cleaner than normal backs. I assume this is partially because the backs were not exposed to the elements like their free as a bird brothers.

Brian

true Brian good points. I have seen cards ripped out where there were fades around the outer edges...and relatively unscathed in the middle..

Ricky Y

[kevinlenane]

Regardless its been super fun going through this - i will also say this - Ive been able to verify the my "wifes' uncle" thing. There is a very old man that died who has the same last name and was born in that area - and there are pictures of him at Guaducanal in this scrapbook (which im going to try to send back) There are a bunch of photos of him from the 30s and newspaper articles from the era. So at the very least - I know this seller isnt trying to scam anyone. They could be super old reprints or the real deal - they are all beat up but i dont really mind it. Here are two more interesting factors that i noticed - though im not totally sure what they mean:

1. You can see the red goudey overprint through the Gehrig back
2. They were not printed with any kind of modern printer (no dot matrix just the color on card texture
3. The stamp looks like it was done differently and has no discernable break pattern at 1200 DPI on both the Gehrig and Ruth.

Sorry to drag this out - but im having so much fun doing my Forensic Files (which incidentally I used to work on...)

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[steve B]

No dot pattern or blockiness in the 1933 logo and that it goes over the background is a good sign. I think they're real.

[1880nonsports]

but ever since I opened the thread I've believed them all to be real. Having them in hand would of course seal the deal.....

no guarantees whether written or implied.

[Exhibitman]

FWIW, an absolutely destroyed SGC A ruth is on ebay now and selling at auction for several hundred dollars, so if the cards are genuine you done good.

[Leon]

I still don't like the color of the borders on the Ruth, or the coloring on the Gehrig, but hopefully I am wrong. As I said before, I am not 100% either way. These scans help and I am closer to them being legit...just not sure.

Originally Posted by kevinlenane

Regardless its been super fun going through this - i will also say this - Ive been able to verify the my "wifes' uncle" thing. There is a very old man that died who has the same last name and was born in that area - and there are pictures of him at Guaducanal in this scrapbook (which im going to try to send back) There are a bunch of photos of him from the 30s and newspaper articles from the era. So at the very least - I know this seller isnt trying to scam anyone. They could be super old reprints or the real deal - they are all beat up but i dont really mind it. Here are two more interesting factors that i noticed - though im not totally sure what they mean:

1. You can see the red goudey overprint through the Gehrig back
2. They were not printed with any kind of modern printer (no dot matrix just the color on card texture
3. The stamp looks like it was done differently and has no discernable break pattern at 1200 DPI on both the Gehrig and Ruth.

Sorry to drag this out - but im having so much fun doing my Forensic Files (which incidentally I used to work on...)

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[kevinlenane]

Thanks again - they are off to the sgc along w a 1941 PB DiMaggio - I'll keep everyone posted...

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by kevinlenane

Thanks again - they are off to the sgc along w a 1941 PB DiMaggio - I'll keep everyone posted...

Good luck.

[kevinlenane]

Shockingly enough the scrapbook Ruth and the Gehrig graded Authentic from SGC. Waiting on them in the mail but wanted to provide that update

In the same submission i wound up with an 8 on a nu-Card Ernie Davis rookie I pulled out of a fresh 1961 pack and a 1.5 on 41 PB DiMaggio I got cheaply in a suspect raw "DiMaggio family" lot w Dom and Vince. Overall a positive result on my two raw/scrapbook gambles...

[Leon]

Congrats., Glad my hesitancy was incorrect.

Originally Posted by kevinlenane

Shockingly enough the scrapbook Ruth and the Gehrig graded Authentic from SGC. Waiting on them in the mail but wanted to provide that update

In the same submission i wound up with an 8 on a nu-Card Ernie Davis rookie I pulled out of a fresh 1961 pack and a 1.5 on 41 PB DiMaggio I got cheaply in a suspect raw "DiMaggio family" lot w Dom and Vince. Overall a positive result on my two raw/scrapbook gambles...