OT: Justin Verlander 3rd No-Hitter

[Peter_Spaeth]

I think people are missing Raymond's point. Any given no hitter clearly has some luck in it. That's all he is saying.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think people are missing Raymond's point. Any given no hitter clearly has some luck in it. That's all he is saying.

True, but as Scott mentioned that doesn't really apply here. I'm sure pitchers have gotten lucky, or been in the zone for a night. Most no hitters probably had a couple close calls or great defensive plays. Maybe what could have been a hit was scored an error. But the guys on that short list didn't just get lucky 3 or more times.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

True, but as Scott mentioned that doesn't really apply here. I'm sure pitchers have gotten lucky, or been in the zone for a night. Most no hitters probably had a couple close calls or great defensive plays. Maybe what could have been a hit was scored an error. But the guys on that short list didn't just get lucky 3 or more times.

Agreed. Indeed if any of Ryan's one hitters was broken up by a cheap hit, you could call him unlucky.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Dave Stieb might've been the unluckiest pitcher of all time. He could've quite conceivably been on this list. My brother and I have a phrase we use a lot when talking about pitchers that applies to Stieb...

...and he was a better pitcher than Jack Morris.

Stieb lost back to back no-no's BOTH with 2 outs in the ninth. That's how close someone came to Vander Meer

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think people are missing Raymond's point. Any given no hitter clearly has some luck in it. That's all he is saying.

Thanks...that is what I was saying...

FYI- I also had a 21K game

- of course, before I became a pitcher, I set what I believe is still the Pony League record for consecutive strikeouts - as a batter...also 21.

[brianp-beme]

I ran across a post on the web from 2016 that MLB was going to award Galarraga the perfect game, yet it still does appear in the listings that I see for perfect games...what gives?


http://www.baseballessential.com/new...ndo-galarraga/

Brian

[Fred]

It was 0-0 for 8 innings. Thank goodness the Stros put across two runs in the top of the ninth for Verlander.

Also, the only walk he gave up came on the second batter of the game. That's a lot of domination for the rest of the game.

[slidekellyslide]

One of my favorite players!

Not trimmed or altered in any way, I pulled these from my own sets I bought in 2005 and sent them to PSA.

[Gnep31]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

One of my favorite players!

Not trimmed or altered in any way, I pulled these from my own sets I bought in 2005 and sent them to PSA.

Longevity coupled with dominance puts him in as a first ballot HOF. But I thought that even before the 3rd no no.

I've watched the vast majority of his starts, until the last few yrs with the Astros, but there have been numerous times he has gone deep in games before giving up a late hit. Just about every time he took the ball for 12.5 yrs it felt like there was a chance for something special and it was an amazing ride watching him in the Old English D.

A lifetime ERA around 3.3 and even lower in the postseason. All of this during the juiced ball and steroid era.

As the Tigers announcers would always say, "JV is must see TV"

[z28jd]

Lawrence J Corcoran

[jimtigers65]

[QUOTE=Gnep31;1913680]Longevity coupled with dominance puts him in as a first ballot HOF. But I thought that even before the 3rd no no.

Does he go into the HOF wearing a Tiger or Astro’s cap on his plaque?

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I ran across a post on the web from 2016 that MLB was going to award Galarraga the perfect game, yet it still does appear in the listings that I see for perfect games...what gives?


http://www.baseballessential.com/new...ndo-galarraga/

Brian

Check the date on that post for your answer.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Check the date on that post for your answer.

Here's the last paragraph from that article. Probably added so people won't take the rest of it too seriously.

"Despite adding Gallaraga’s perfect game to the record books, the number of perfect games in history remains at 23. That’s because, in a strange and somewhat cruel twist, Commissioner Manfred got into a bit of a reviewing-perfect-games rabbit hole and ended up revoking Humber’s, saying, “Brendan Ryan didn’t swing at that last pitch, and it was three feet outside. Ball four, perfect game out the window. Oh, and Chone Figgins probably would have followed the walk with an RBI double, so Humber doesn’t get a no-hitter or shutout either. And let’s be real — once he lost the no-hitter and shutout, they’re not going to leave him out there to finish blowing the game, so his only career complete game is gone too.”


When reached for comment, Humber said, “Wait, what?!?”

[brianp-beme]

April's Fool in September is me!

Brian