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[bobfreedman]

Guys, I was the consignor and I cleaned it with distilled water ONLY. I actually took a picture of the process because I was so surprise how easily it came off. Here it is,

I know skeptics will always be skeptics but judge for yourself. This will be my one and only post about this as I feel that this board has a lynch mob mentality.

[calvindog]

Bob, do you provide the software to LOTG?

[frankbmd]

When can I bring my Honda over for a wash?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

When can I bring my Honda over for a wash?

Put down the pitchfork, son.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

Guys, I was the consignor and I cleaned it with distilled water ONLY. I actually took a picture of the process because I was so surprise how easily it came off. Here it is,

I know skeptics will always be skeptics but judge for yourself. This will be my one and only post about this as I feel that this board has a lynch mob mentality.

Thanks for coming in, I hope you can understand a certain amount of skepticism here considering the dramatic results of your efforts both in appearance and auction results, not to mention the recent controversies on the card side. By drawing attention to the potential in both respects, I think this episode will be helpful to a number of people and has value for that reason. There have been a number of Net54 threads that turned ugly and personal, no doubt, a risk our esteemed admin has policed admirably, in my opinion, but ascribing a "lynch mob mentality" to the entire board is ridiculous, and I don't think many of us would be here if that was the case. In fact, I don't think that kind of board would be around very long. Having said that, as in other areas of my life, when I jump in here I put on my big boy pants and am ready to go toe to toe with whatever comes forth. As the saying goes, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

[RedsFan1941]

bob should change his user name to Anne Sullivan.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

bob should change his user name to Anne Sullivan.

Was she the deaf, dumb and blind one or the miracle worker?

[Peter_Spaeth]

I leave it to Burkett to improve the lyric.

Wonder of wonders
Miracle of miracles
Bob took a sign that was rusted brown
Cotton and water and
Miracle of miracles
It's now the finest sign around

[oldjudge]

Bob-If you bought an ugly looking sign in REA and cleaned it up so it looked really nice, why resell it? Were you always planning for it to be a resale item? If so, how did you know it would clean up with only distilled water? Seems like a collector like yourself would want to keep a good looking item.

[Leon]

This is a bunch of BS. If Bob said he used water and cotton balls then that is what he used. Believe what he said or not, but your poem proves the lynch mob mentality some have around here. You aren't helping the cause in detecting real fraud. There was none here and no matter what anyone says or contorts there won't be any. On the other hand the card trimming, recoloring etc... that is going on is real fraud.

And I too think Al did all of the right things with the auction. As soon as information was found out about it was made known. There were no victims and no harm was done. Quite a difference from slab-gate....

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I leave it to Burkett to improve the lyric.

Wonder of wonders
Miracle of miracles
Bob took a sign that was rusted brown
Cotton and water and
Miracle of miracles
It's now the finest sign around

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

This is a bunch of BS. If Bob said he used water and cotton balls then that is what he used. Believe what he said or not, but your poem proves the lynch mob mentality some have around here. You aren't helping the cause in detecting real fraud. There was none here and no matter what anyone says or contorts there won't be any. On the other hand the card trimming, recoloring etc... that is going on is real fraud.

And I too think Al did all of the right things with the auction. As soon as information was found out about it was made known. There were no victims and no harm was done. Quite a difference from slab-gate....

Dude it's tongue in cheek, Jesus. Satire. Parody. Since you don't seem to know, it's a take off on a song from Fiddler on the Roof inspired by the reference to a miracle. I am sorry you don't appreciate the humor. Maybe I need a better lyricist.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by Leon

This is a bunch of BS. If Bob said he used water and cotton balls then that is what he used. Believe what he said or not, but your poem proves the lynch mob mentality some have around here. You aren't helping the cause in detecting real fraud. There was none here and no matter what anyone says or contorts there won't be any. On the other hand the card trimming, recoloring etc... that is going on is real fraud.

And I too think Al did all of the right things with the auction. As soon as information was found out about it was made known. There were no victims and no harm was done. Quite a difference from slab-gate....

Agreed. Nice job with the water Bob!

[Fred]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

Guys, I was the consignor and I cleaned it with distilled water ONLY. I actually took a picture of the process because I was so surprise how easily it came off. Here it is,

I know skeptics will always be skeptics but judge for yourself. This will be my one and only post about this as I feel that this board has a lynch mob mentality.

I've used the same method (distilled water and cotton swabs) to wipe a bunch of crud off a 19th century cabinet. I took before and after pictures of the cabinet that show the crud removed from the picture. It was night and day and I really didn't consider it altering because the only thing done was the removal of dirt and grime with distilled water. I have no intention of selling the cabinet, however IF I do, I'll have no problem fully disclosing this (with the before and after pictures and the dirty cotton swabs).

[Snapolit1]

What's with the cotton swabs anyway. I'd be afraid remnants of cotton would adhere to the metal and be hard to get off. I'd opt for an extremely soft rag of some sort.

In event, a simple google search of "how a clean rust off an old metal sign" reveals a plethora of ways to remove rust from an old metal sign. If cotton and water does the trick there's an awful lot of antique folks out there who are wasting time with vinegar and other substances.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

What's with the cotton swabs anyway. I'd be afraid remnants of cotton would adhere to the metal and be hard to get off. I'd opt for an extremely soft rag of some sort.

In event, a simple google search of "how a clean rust off an old metal sign" reveals a plethora of ways to remove rust from an old metal sign. If cotton and water does the trick there's an awful lot of antique folks out there who are wasting time with vinegar and other substances.

Water will remove the loose filth and some of the worst scaly rust as well as some rust stains on the paint. But it doesn't remove the actual corrosion.
Vinegar will remove some of the actually corroded bits. That plus wax or oil will help prevent the rust from getting worse.

[brianp-beme]

To respond to the title of this thread I really like Brockelman Auctions.

brianp(arker)-beme

[wondo]

A²G²

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by steve B

Water will remove the loose filth and some of the worst scaly rust as well as some rust stains on the paint. But it doesn't remove the actual corrosion.
Vinegar will remove some of the actually corroded bits. That plus wax or oil will help prevent the rust from getting worse.

Great information, thank you. And wow, that Reach sign is one gorgeous piece of signage!

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by Fred

I've used the same method (distilled water and cotton swabs) to wipe a bunch of crud off a 19th century cabinet. I took before and after pictures of the cabinet that show the crud removed from the picture. It was night and day and I really didn't consider it altering because the only thing done was the removal of dirt and grime with distilled water. I have no intention of selling the cabinet, however IF I do, I'll have no problem fully disclosing this (with the before and after pictures and the dirty cotton swabs).

Shame on you Fred. One more infraction like this and you will have to turn in you Old Judge Club membership card and the secret decoder ring.