PSA: Please Explain "Authentic Altered"

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

They're calling that bottom right trimmed, I am almost positive.

I am more than confident this is the correct answer.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

All that being said I don't think the difference between that card in "A" or in "1" is going to be significant.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

All that being said I don't think the difference between that card in "A" or in "1" is going to be significant.

That's part of my gripe (not necessarily the OP's). There seems like a few educated guesses here. But there should be no need to guess. If you as a TPG are going to distinguish among levels of a beat-to-crap card (altered vs not altered), and in no-one's right mind would grade higher than a 1, why not say why you determined it was altered as well? There is little, if any, monetary incentive to hide the fact that it is altered, so why not provide details?

My rant wasn't directed at Scott, just a jumping off point.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Sometimes they put a reason on the slab such as "Authentic Trimmed". I don't understand why it's not consistent.

[drcy]

The OP's card is in poor condition. Whether or not it was trimmed 100 years ago, it's in poor condition.

Personally, I wouldn't mind altered cards being graded as Poor 1, and I think it would be awesome for every altered PWCC and Gary Moser cards to be relabelled a 1. I'd love for the Gretzky Wagner to be relabelled as Poor 1. Talk about sending a message.

I'd start a movement for altered cards, including restored cards, to be labeled Poor 1.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by drcy

The OP's card is in poor condition. Whether or not it was trimmed 100 years ago, it's in poor condition.

Personally, I wouldn't mind altered cards being graded as Poor 1, and I think it would be awesome for every altered PWCC and Gary Moser cards to be relabelled a 1. I'd love for the Gretzky Wagner to be relabelled as Poor 1. Talk about sending a message.

I'd start a movement for altered cards, including restored cards, to be labeled Poor 1.

That is a GREAT idea. It might actually discourage card doctors from doing their thing. But first, we need a Grading Company that can be effective identifying the alterations.

[bmcnutt]

Personally, I think card grading companies like PSA are bad for the collectors. I think Card Authentication Only would be great. We definitely need this will all of the fakes & frauds. The reason I think grading is bad for collectors is because it only benefits the sellers such as PWCC. I saw earlier that Dean's Cards has a 1960 Topps Willie McCovey Rookie Card NM/MT listed on eBay for a whopping $340.00. The book value is $250.00. Card grading companies are causing sellers to sell ungraded cards at premium prices above the book value all because of overpriced graded cards.