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Old 07-05-2019, 04:13 PM
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Put it in the bank and let the fraud in the hobby crest.
Yep.

I'm happy the postwar regional cards and coins I wrote about were not implicated in this latest mess. Whilst researching my book during 2003 - 2009, card doctoring was a hot topic from time to time on these boards. When I interviewed Rob Lifson, among the topics we discussed was that particular matter. He informed me, for instance, that Stahl-Meyer Franks cannot be doctored; the paraffin coating prevents any type of "fixin". Which, then, would also include Dan-Dees, Briggs, Esskays, Hunters, and Peters Meats, most of which are covered to some extent in NEVER CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN. The distinctive type of slick, "mirro-chrome" finish on the late 50s-early 60s Bell Brand and Morrell Meat Dodgers would also be restorative-proof. Ditto Dormand postcards, Coca-Cola premiums, and the color Kahn's regionals.

Honest, I'm not suggesting to collect all of the above. Just be reassured card doctoring can be thwarted in some instances. I know very well my little niche is perhaps a single percent of the focus of our members. This whole fiasco has been very disturbing, to say the least. The basic need of superior professional third party authenticating and grading is still there, and always will be. Let's not throw the baby, and the rest of his family, out with the bath water! We simply cannot go back to:

It's a screamer,
best I've ever seen,
best I've ever handled,
you could shave with this,
try to find another,
I swear it's the best you'll ever find in your life,
you never see them this nice,
bragging rights abound with this one,
etc., etc., etc.

I wonder if TPGs will honor their guarantees, and collectors will be refunded their money (i.e. that $5,000, as in the OP). It will be very tough to prove, and the pivotal matter of tracing back the provenance....

I know this post kinda diverts from the original discussion and intent; however, the uneasiness, anquish, and outright wrath in the hearts of those collectors affected, in one way or another, cannot be pooh-poohed and forum-banned away. It may take some more time before someone will eagerly wish to spend their 5 grand on a card.

--- Brian Powell
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Old 07-05-2019, 04:48 PM
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Guys, let's not take this so seriously. If you had a free $5K that you had to spend on a card, what would it be? Simple. No saving the money because the hobby is wrought with fraud right now, blah blah blah. Just pick a card with a hypothetical $5K that was left to you by some Aunt that passed and she stipulated that you have to spend it on a card. What card?
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Old 07-05-2019, 04:57 PM
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Probably '07 HM Taylor Cobb or '07 Dietsche Batting Cobb.

Most importantly, nothing where value is mostly tied to condition/grade.
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Old 07-05-2019, 05:03 PM
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I would buy the card(s) that I would most enjoy owning. Any effort to predict future values is, in my judgment, unreliable.
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Old 07-05-2019, 07:18 PM
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Probably '07 HM Taylor Cobb or '07 Dietsche Batting Cobb.
+1. This, or a 1921 Exhibit Ruth.

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Old 07-05-2019, 07:53 PM
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The cleanest unaltered E90-2 Honus Wagner I could find.
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Old 07-05-2019, 07:54 PM
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Id grAb the best hm taylor cobb i could find
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Old 07-05-2019, 05:06 PM
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Guys, let's not take this so seriously. If you had a free $5K that you had to spend on a card, what would it be? Simple. No saving the money because the hobby is wrought with fraud right now, blah blah blah. Just pick a card with a hypothetical $5K that was left to you by some Aunt that passed and she stipulated that you have to spend it on a card. What card?
I’d go for a SGC 2-3 t206 Green Cobbie.
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Old 07-05-2019, 05:26 PM
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low grade, but decent looking T201 set and 1933 Goudey Ruth #144
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Old 07-05-2019, 05:32 PM
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A collector-grade, scarce WaJo card.
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Old 07-05-2019, 05:53 PM
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Best 1949 Paige, or 1926/29 Ruth PC Exhibit - good stuff!
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Old 07-05-2019, 06:18 PM
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I would buy the nicest 1956 Topps Mantle I could find for the price. I have always loved that card and currently need it for my set.
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Old 07-07-2019, 09:00 PM
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the best green Cobb I could find
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Old 07-05-2019, 09:04 PM
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Guys, let's not take this so seriously. If you had a free $5K that you had to spend on a card, what would it be? Simple. No saving the money because the hobby is wrought with fraud right now, blah blah blah. Just pick a card with a hypothetical $5K that was left to you by some Aunt that passed and she stipulated that you have to spend it on a card. What card?
OK, Andy, I get it. If I had five grand, I'd want the nicest T-206 Ed Walsh I could get.

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Old 07-05-2019, 09:21 PM
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One of these ...

T206 Cobb Bat On PSA 4.5
T206 Cobb Bat Off PSA 4.5
T206 Cobb Red Portrait PSA 4.5
T206 Young Portrait PSA 5
T206 Johnson Portrait PSA 5
1933 Goudey Ruth PSA 4
1933 Goudey Gehrig PSA 5

Ship may have already sailed on many of these but maybe you will get lucky.

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Old 07-05-2019, 09:28 PM
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OK, Andy, I get it. If I had five grand, I'd want the nicest T-206 Ed Walsh I could get.

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Thanks Brian! Nice pick too by the way. I always liked the Walsh image.
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PSA/SGC 3/4 T206 Uzit...or try to find a low grade Drum for 5k (not easy).

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56 Mantle, 54 Aaron or a 90 Uribe...
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