Hey, pennant guys

[erikc21]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Nice, Erik! I really like the top one.

Thanks, Marc! I hadn’t sent that particular version before, so I was happy to find it.

[perezfan]

I love it too...

The St. Louis Browns used that same design, and then the Orioles continued with it. Both are toughies, but not as rare as yours. Anyway, that pins it to the early-to-mid 1950s time frame.

Sweet pennants, Erik!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Have a few pennants in my current auction mostly 60's - 80's. First Year Expos is pretty cool.

[Fballguy]

That red will get you. Anyone want to take ownership? Currently on ebay...

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

That red will get you. Anyone want to take ownership? Currently on ebay...

At least the red didn’t run all over the place like my 1962 pennant. A beginning Yankees collector could pick it up cheap, get a red Sharpie.....

[Fballguy]

Or just keep bleaching until the red is completely gone and have a rare, head band wearing Uncle Sam Yankee pennant.

[perezfan]

That's too bad... pretty rare version, would've been a nice result, if not for the loss of the red paint.

Perhaps you can still send it to PSA, who will slab it as a "3.5". Then list it with PWCC, who will glowingly state...

"Radiant VG+ condition, with some red surface loss that is unaltered and totally original to the pennant."

[erikc21]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

That red will get you. Anyone want to take ownership? Currently on ebay...

I’ve thought about bleaching my Alabama ‘Red Elephants’ pennant, but I’ve stayed away from reds thus far... Sorry it wasn’t the result you were looking for.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by erikc21

I’ve thought about bleaching my Alabama ‘Red Elephants’ pennant, but I’ve stayed away from reds thus far... Sorry it wasn’t the result you were looking for.

Oh that's not mine. I just saw it on ebay.

[Dodgerfan74]

My question is how do you know if its an authentic 1958 opening day of Dodger Stadium Pennant?
I saw the pennant on Offer Up. The person is asking $200.00 for it.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Dodgerfan74

My question is how do you know if its an authentic 1958 opening day of Dodger Stadium Pennant?
I saw the pennant on Offer Up. The person is asking $200.00 for it.

Well, if it's really dated 1958 and purported to be from the opening of Dodger Stadium, it is a fake. The Dodgers played at the Coliseum from 1958 - 61. Dodger Stadium opened in 1962.

If you meant to say it's dated 1962, I don't think that pennant has ever been reproduced. Is it the two-toned version with red and blue felt, sewn together vertically? Assuming so, it should be legit, and not a reproduction. Post a picture here if you want us to verify.

That said, you should not have to pay $200 for that piece. On a very good day, it's a $100 pennant in nice condition. They turn up with relative frequency, as I believe more were produced than could originally be sold at the stadium. Here's a typical nice example that sold for $68...

http://insidetheparkcollectibles.com...t-lot5247.aspx

So if you wait it out just a bit, you should be able to find a nice one for less.

Hope this helps.

[Dodgerfan74]

Thank you for the information. Yes I meant 1962. I offered him $100 but he wouldn't take it. I will play the waiting game.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Dodgerfan74

Thank you for the information. Yes I meant 1962. I offered him $100 but he wouldn't take it. I will play the waiting game.

I'd do the same, and don't think you'll have to wait too long. I'll keep an eye out for one, and will post it here if/when I find one.

[Duluth Eskimo]

I have posted this before, but back in the 80’s I was at a show when a large find of these was released. It was new old stock. They were $5 a piece and the dealer had at least 50. These aren’t tough to find and as Mark said you should be able to find one for less than $100. Still a nice pennant

[Fballguy]

Picked this one up yesterday and noticed something odd. On the back of the picture, they designate a player as "Unknown". How can five time All Pro and Hall of Famer Henry Jordan be "Unknown"?

They also fail to name Ray Nitschke at all.

Just odd...to a pennant geek like me anyway.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Nice pennant Rob. Those are tough to find in great shape.

[Domer05]

That's so odd. You'd think the team at Trench would have access to a media guide or something that could help identify this player before they printed the photo.

I guess we have to remember what life was like before the internet....

[erikc21]

Very nice pickup Rob! Great condition!

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Domer05

That's so odd. You'd think the team at Trench would have access to a media guide or something that could help identify this player before they printed the photo.

I guess we have to remember what life was like before the internet....

I wonder if the teams provided the pictures for these. I can't imagine Trench arranged for a pennant photo shoot with the entire team...in addition to their normal, annual team photo.

Jason/Erik...Thanks go out to Rick Haskins for this one. Picked up some great pennants from him on Friday. Unfortunately, my wallet forced me to choose among many...so there will be some left if you run into him at the National.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I wonder if the teams provided the pictures for these. I can't imagine Trench arranged for a pennant photo shoot with the entire team...in addition to their normal, annual team photo.

Jason/Erik...Thanks go out to Rick Haskins for this one. Picked up some great pennants from him on Friday. Unfortunately, my wallet forced me to choose among many...so there will be some left if you run into him at the National.

Thanks a lot for the teaser, Rob...

Let's see a few others you picked up!

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I wonder if the teams provided the pictures for these. I can't imagine Trench arranged for a pennant photo shoot with the entire team...in addition to their normal, annual team photo.

Jason/Erik...Thanks go out to Rick Haskins for this one. Picked up some great pennants from him on Friday. Unfortunately, my wallet forced me to choose among many...so there will be some left if you run into him at the National.

Good point, Rob. No, I can't imagine each team took a photo just for use on Trench's pennants--separate from their annual team photo. But, it does appear that Trench actually printed the team's photo, as evidenced by the Trench name on the reverse. They probably had to in order to create a photo that had the right dimensions; and, maybe on a material that was suitable for whatever adhesive they used to bond the pennant with the felt (tape, I think??).

[thetahat]

Really psyched to have picked this up. Seems to be much harder to find than the Dodgers companion pennant - both were made without tassels.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Good point, Rob. No, I can't imagine each team took a photo just for use on Trench's pennants--separate from their annual team photo. But, it does appear that Trench actually printed the team's photo, as evidenced by the Trench name on the reverse. They probably had to in order to create a photo that had the right dimensions; and, maybe on a material that was suitable for whatever adhesive they used to bond the pennant with the felt (tape, I think??).

Safe to say, this was probably the last time they asked an intern to identify the players.

And yes...tape. Really good tape. The predecessor to Gorilla tape I'm guessing.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Really psyched to have picked this up. Seems to be much harder to find than the Dodgers companion pennant - both were made without tassels.

I thought so too...when I picked this up last week.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Those are tough Sox variations as well

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Really psyched to have picked this up. Seems to be much harder to find than the Dodgers companion pennant - both were made without tassels.

Good observation about the absence of tassels on these two pennants. Both were made by Trench--a company that always included a pair of tassels on their 3/4 and full size pennants through 1970 or so.

Except in 1959 when making the NL and Al Champions pennants for the Dodgers and Sox, respectively. Never could explain it.

Do you suppose they ran out of tassels at the factory that week..?

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Good observation about the absence of tassels on these two pennants. Both were made by Trench--a company that always included a pair of tassels on their 3/4 and full size pennants through 1970 or so.

Except in 1959 when making the NL and Al Champions pennants for the Dodgers and Sox, respectively. Never could explain it.

Do you suppose they ran out of tassels at the factory that week..?

But no shortage of yellow spines. They had plenty of those whether the yellow went with the color combination or not. That Dodgers pennant would look sharp with a white spine.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Thanks a lot for the teaser, Rob...

Let's see a few others you picked up!

The unfinished Rams pennant (typically this is covered in facsimile signatures) and Raiders Stars pennant aren't from Rick. The rest are. A nice group of bootleg pennants and a phantom Cowboys SBXIII Champions pennant I hadn't seen before.

[thetahat]

The Trench pennants with the stadium graphics are so cool. Every team had them except for the Phillies and Senators. Would love to know why they were excluded.

[stone193]

This is one of my favorites - I believe it's from the 50s.

The letters are sewn on - which IMO gives it a "well made" appearance.

[perezfan]

That 1959 Chisox pennant is one of the coolest looking Pennants ever... tassels not withstanding. The colors, the winged sock, the stadium and the diminutive players... that one truly has it all. An artistic Trench masterpiece!

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by stone193

This is one of my favorites - I believe it's from the 50s.

The letters are sewn on - which IMO gives it a "well made" appearance.

That's such a tough pennant to find. Sewn letter baseball pennants are unusually rare. It may even pre-date the 1950s, who knows?

I've seen that one before with a Spalding label sewn on the reverse. Which makes it even cooler.

[stone193]

Originally Posted by Domer05

That's such a tough pennant to find. Sewn letter baseball pennants are unusually rare. It may even pre-date the 1950s, who knows?

I've seen that one before with a Spalding label sewn on the reverse. Which makes it even cooler.

Thanx!

[erikc21]

Originally Posted by perezfan

That 1959 Chisox pennant is one of the coolest looking Pennants ever... tassels not withstanding. The colors, the winged sock, the stadium and the diminutive players... that one truly has it all. An artistic Trench masterpiece!

Couldn’t agree more, Mark. Beautiful and great finds, gentlemen!

[bocca001]

This just arrived today. Funky.

[thetahat]

FANTASTIC Giants pennant. Looks like a Keezer pennant from around the end of their run. Can’t say I’ve ever seen it before. Congrats!

[bocca001]

Thanks, Greg. I believe that it is Keezer as well, and I hadn't seen it before either. Now, if I could only track down the Astros Astronaut pennant to go with it.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

This just arrived today. Funky.

Damn you!

I hope my ebay searches didn’t let me down again.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

This just arrived today. Funky.

Well, at least you paid up.

Coincidentally, I just recently purchased this patch.

[Fballguy]

Is that logo specific to Keezer? This one sold recently as well and has a similar...but different...logo.

[bocca001]

Yeah... the condition plus the rarity was worth the price for me ($150). I can still picture items that I missed for a few bucks that still haunt me to this day (because I've never seen them again) and I don't really like that feeling.

If you don't have it, I assume that it must be pretty rare. Yes?

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Well, at least you paid up.

Coincidentally, I just recently purchased this patch.

[bocca001]

I assume that this Astros pennant (not mine) came from the same Keezer run. Similar graphics and font. Sold for $300 in 2016.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Yeah... the condition plus the rarity was worth the price for me ($150). I can still picture items that I missed for a few bucks that still haunt me to this day (because I've never seen them again) and I don't really like that feeling.

If you don't have it, I assume that it must be pretty rare. Yes?

Rare enough that I've never seen it.....and will probably never see it again.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I assume that this Astros pennant (not mine) came from the same Keezer run. Similar graphics and font. Sold for $300 in 2016.

Here’s a slightly earlier Keezer Astros pennant ... same astronaut, pennant made of cloth

[bocca001]

Greg- I like it. How long have you had it?

Anyone know how the Keexer pennants were sold? Any Keezer advertisements out there?

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Well, at least you paid up.

Coincidentally, I just recently purchased this patch.

I've got this rare die-cut variation... the New York Giants version (not S.F.) It is similar but different. It's large (5" tall by 4" wide). If Marc, Rob or anyone else doesn't have it (and is interested) I can let it go.

$65 + $3.50 shipping would do it. Normally I'd post on BST, but seemed like an opportune time to insert it here... thanks!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Is that logo specific to Keezer? This one sold recently as well and has a similar...but different...logo.

Where did that one sell? Do you know what it went for? Hammered but cool and unique.

[Fballguy]

Rob...On Ebay. It was listed as $195 or best offer. Based on where it sits in the sold listings, looks like it sold for $130-$150.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Greg- I like it. How long have you had it?

Anyone know how the Keexer pennants were sold? Any Keezer advertisements out there?

Thanks Marc. Maybe about 12-15 years. Bought it from a pennant dealer from Dallas, at a show up here in Philadelphia. I don’t know how they were sold. I like them, they have simple but cool designs. Pictures here are most of my other Keezers, still looking for a STL Browns.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I've got this rare die-cut variation... the New York Giants version (not S.F.) It is similar but different. It's large (5" tall by 4" wide). If Marc, Rob or anyone else doesn't have it (and is interested) I can let it go.

$65 + $3.50 shipping would do it. Normally I'd post on BST, but seemed like an opportune time to insert it here... thanks!

Pretty provocative logo for the 1940-50s. A quick glance and you might not think that's a bat in his hand.