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Old 06-01-2019, 07:59 AM
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It is not in PWCC's best interest to deal with people who inspect their purchases.
I wonder how their investment advice thing is going.
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:09 AM
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I wonder how their investment advice thing is going.
Probably pretty good. This is on a few baseball card forums but what percentage of collectors are on forums or even know this is happening or even care.

I have friends from the 90's that are still very active in the hobby and had no idea that the Mastro thing happened.
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Old 06-01-2019, 09:36 AM
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Probably pretty good. This is on a few baseball card forums but what percentage of collectors are on forums or even know this is happening or even care.



I have friends from the 90's that are still very active in the hobby and had no idea that the Mastro thing happened.
^^^This^^^ I have a couple of friends who have absolutely zero knowledge of Net54, Blowout, Mastro, etc. When I see them and we discuss cards, I have brought all of this up. They look at me like I am exaggerating or speaking a foreign language. I am afraid most collectors are just like them...I was the same way before I found Net54 a few years ago...just quietly collecting cards and enjoying their collections without a care in the world.

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^^^This^^^ I have a couple of friends who have absolutely zero knowledge of Net54, Blowout, Mastro, etc. When I see them and we discuss cards, I have brought all of this up. They look at me like I am exaggerating or speaking a foreign language. I am afraid most collectors are just like them...I was the same way before I found Net54 a few years ago...just quietly collecting cards and enjoying their collections without a care in the world.

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This story isn't a "Me Too" story like the ones in the news. But I agree with the poster above. I just spoke to two friends who are frequent and active buyers of 1940's and 1950's PSA cards for their several registry sets. While they are both extremely active in buying, neither had any idea this new scandal was going on, nor had they heard about the autograph scandal of a few weeks/months ago.

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Old 06-01-2019, 10:19 AM
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What do you think of the picture in this listing?

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Old 06-01-2019, 10:41 AM
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Has anyone looked at the new round of T206s that PWCC listed on ebay? It appears that several of them have cert numbers that are very close to each other. My guess is that these cards are also doctored. Is PWCC really being this brazen to still sell doctored cards while they are being caught red handed?
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Old 06-01-2019, 10:55 AM
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Has anyone looked at the new round of T206s that PWCC listed on ebay? It appears that several of them have cert numbers that are very close to each other. My guess is that these cards are also doctored. Is PWCC really being this brazen to still sell doctored cards while they are being caught red handed?
Did you not watch Brent's one-hour + discussion on conservation?
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Old 06-01-2019, 10:58 AM
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While they are both extremely active in buying, neither had any idea this new scandal was going on, nor had they heard about the autograph scandal of a few weeks/months ago.
Nothing that a front page article in the SMR or Forbes wouldn't help fix.
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Nothing that a front page article in the SMR or Forbes wouldn't help fix.
Forbes lol yeah 100 times more likely another puff piece.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:35 AM
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Forbes lol yeah 100 times more likely another puff piece.
I'm sure Forbes has at least one investigative journalist on staff. These articles basically write themselves.
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Forbes lol yeah 100 times more likely another puff piece.
A number Forbes online contributors were involved, not too long ago, in a payola scandal where the writers were taking money for favorable pieces and links to certain companies.

This is merely a statement of fact. Draw your own conclusions.

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It's official. I've spent way too much time this weekend trying to sift through and keep up with these threads. Helllllpppp!
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I wonder how their investment advice thing is going.
I would say it's hanging on by a thread.
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How many times do you think he has advised people to buy cards out of his auctions he knew were altered?
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How many times do you think he has advised people to buy cards out of his auctions he knew were altered?
I have no idea but if you started counting out loud at 1 it might take some time to get to that number.
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How many times do you think he has advised people to buy cards out of his auctions he knew were altered?
Just read some of the descriptions of the relisted cards with enhanced grades.
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Just read some of the descriptions of the relisted cards with enhanced grades.
It's one level of disingenuousness to describe them that way; quite another to tell someone one on one to buy them.

Not far back someone here posted about a 52 Musial and as I recall mentioned how he reviewed all his purchases with Brent before bidding, I hope for that guy's sake he didn't get burned.
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It's one level of disingenuousness to describe them that way; quite another to tell someone one on one to buy them.
I think we agree to agree.
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Was this one of the service the "Vault" provided? You could send your PSA 6 card and it would leave as a PSA 7 when it is resold. Select the Dr. Moser option when it is shipped there.

Maybe PSA should hire him as a consultant. He is certainly operating a much higher level than they are able to detect.

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