My exceptional PWCC pickup.

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by ZiggerZagger

I like the positivity, Martin. I would make the point that it's the Consignors who choose to bring these cards to market, however, through PWCC. These are cards that are already "in the hobby", with PWCC just acting as a conduit for the sale.
full name: J@$on B!$p!ng

Thanks Jason. In this scenario I like the old saying “don’t hate the player, hate the game”. If these consigners would just post on net54 “fst” (thanks Frank) I wouldn’t lose sleep with PWCC guilt.
But honestly I like PWCC.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

Thanks Jason. In this scenario I like the old saying “don’t hate the player, hate the game”. If these consigners would just post on net54 “fst” (thanks Frank) I wouldn’t lose sleep with PWCC guilt.
But honestly I like PWCC.

Did you like the altered 52T Mantle with no disclosure?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=268541


https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1290614

[Goudey77]

I followed the discussion on all the usual platforms. It appears PWCC fully acknowledged the potential changes that card has gone through. Not sure if the buyer knows anything with all the exposure and talk. Will be interesting to see if they ever come forward. Otherwise the card stays in PC until the next episode.

As a collector I stay in my lane. But I’m experienced enough to realize this is bigger than social media exposure and pressure to do the right thing by PWCC. To me the end game is with PSA. They will forever be liable for every single graded card out in circulation. It is the nature of their business right? The big question is will PSA do the right thing? I am almost willing to bet my bottom dollar if the new owner lawyered up they could bring a good case against PSA’s grade guarantee policy and come out with some 💵

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

I followed the discussion on all the usual platforms. It appears PWCC fully acknowledged the potential changes that card has gone through. Not sure if the buyer knows anything with all the exposure and talk. Will be interesting to see if they ever come forward. Otherwise the card stays in PC until the next episode.

As a collector I stay in my lane. But I’m experienced enough to realize this is bigger than social media exposure and pressure to do the right thing by PWCC. To me the end game is with PSA. They will forever be liable for every single graded card out in circulation. It is the nature of their business right? The big question is will PSA do the right thing? I am almost willing to bet my bottom dollar if the new owner lawyered up they could bring a good case against PSA’s grade guarantee policy and come out with some ��

PWCC refused to disclose anything in their auction description, despite clear evidence the card was altered, and offered a whole slew of nonsense to justify it. That, to me, is the takeaway from the fiasco. I can't spin it any other way, sorry.

[oldjudge]

I'm sure all blind collectors appreciate PWCC's labeling. Perhaps they can expand the service to dating apps.

[Bigdaddy]

Very nice pickup.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

I'm sure all blind collectors appreciate PWCC's labeling. Perhaps they can expand the service to dating apps.

Do their stickers have Braille? Because I think the blind would appreciate knowing that their graded card has extreme eye appeal.

Brian (noted for coming up with insensitive but genius level ideas...and a PWCC dating app. Why didn't I think of that?)

[felada]

Is there a legitimate purpose to this thread other than the counter all the negative pwcc threads lately? Why couldn’t this pick up been posted in the pick up thread? Pwcc isn’t the only company with ‘quality’ cards. I get like three catalogs a month filled with them from auction companies.

[toledo_mudhen]

Just my 2 cents - I think novice collectors hear the "Buy the Card - Not the Holder" schpiel over and over and over. I don't think that it sets in tho until much later down the "collecting" path after carefully studying many cards in hand. I know it took me a long time to get that thru my head.

I would suspect that many untrained eyes would automatically speculate this T206 as at least a 7 were it not already in a holder. My 1st glance at this card was a "wow" and then I automatically assumed "crease" because of the holder.

PWCC's target customer consists of way more than us on the boards and as such I don't think their "HE" designations (or whatever else) is necessarily such a bad thing.

[lowpopper]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

Just my 2 cents - I think novice collectors hear the "Buy the Card - Not the Holder" schpiel over and over and over. I don't think that it sets in tho until much later down the "collecting" path after carefully studying many cards in hand. I know it took me a long time to get that thru my head.

I would suspect that many untrained eyes would automatically speculate this T206 as at least a 7 were it not already in a holder. My 1st glance at this card was a "wow" and then I automatically assumed "crease" because of the holder.

PWCC's target customer consists of way more than us on the boards and as such I don't think their "HE" designations (or whatever else) is necessarily such a bad thing.

Been saying the same thing. Most of the regular contributors to this forum
are skilled enough to operate without assistance....but they only make up
a small percentage of the collecting public. The rest of the wold may need
helping hand/eye.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by felada

Is there a legitimate purpose to this thread other than the counter all the negative pwcc threads lately? Why couldn’t this pick up been posted in the pick up thread? Pwcc isn’t the only company with ‘quality’ cards. I get like three catalogs a month filled with them from auction companies.

Define “legitimate” first.

[Snapolit1]

Thank god for all these guys who run auction houses. Some of them deserve sainthood. Except for the obvious criminals of course.

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by felada

Is there a legitimate purpose to this thread other than the counter all the negative pwcc threads lately? Why couldn’t this pick up been posted in the pick up thread? Pwcc isn’t the only company with ‘quality’ cards. I get like three catalogs a month filled with them from auction companies.

David, no legitimate purpose other than to take a stance that there are Net54 members who do purchase from PWCC and are comfortable with it.
I’m willing to bet many members here just stay quiet about it because of the social justice warriors turned hobby police is in full force harassing anyone with differing opinions as if this were an Antifa rally.

If there is anything guaranteed in this world it is a good old internet tough guy. It goes back to the beginning of the internet.

[rjackson44]

Think its a gorgeous card ,,congrats

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

David, no legitimate purpose other than to take a stance that there are Net54 members who do purchase from PWCC and are comfortable with it.
I’m willing to bet many members here just stay quiet about it because of the social justice warriors turned hobby police is in full force harassing anyone with differing opinions as if this were an Antifa rally.

If there is anything guaranteed in this world it is a good old internet tough guy. It goes back to the beginning of the internet.

There are definitely loads of internet tough guys on card forums.

I have had nothing but positive dealings with PWCC. Every transaction was first class.

People can pretend all they want but most of us simply can't not bid on cards in their auctions if we want to keep moving our collections forward. It is what it is. So much of the best material ends up there.