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Old 05-11-2019, 07:10 PM
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I don't understand the praise for PWCC here. So they sold a nice looking 2.5. Big deal. Anyone could have done that. Is the praise for the sticker that you've already agreed is meaningless since you yourself could tell it was a nice looking 2.5? I just don't understand the point of this thread I guess.
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Old 05-11-2019, 07:13 PM
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I bought a nice looking Julius Erving rookie here off the b/s/t many years ago. I don't need a sticker to tell me it looks nice for the grade. I know it does. That is all.
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Old 05-11-2019, 07:20 PM
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Obviously anyone could sell any card at any time. My point is that PWCC consistently brings nice cards to the hobby. It’s quite frequent actually. Just like REA brings vintage memorabilia of epic proportions. This helps collectors like me. Just my opinion. Wanted to say something positive on these boards for a change. Happy Saturday all 🌞
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Obviously anyone could sell any card at any time. My point is that PWCC consistently brings nice cards to the hobby. It’s quite frequent actually. Just like REA brings vintage memorabilia of epic proportions. This helps collectors like me. Just my opinion. Wanted to say something positive on these boards for a change. Happy Saturday all 🌞
I like the positivity, Martin. I would make the point that it's the Consignors who choose to bring these cards to market, however, through PWCC. These are cards that are already "in the hobby", with PWCC just acting as a conduit for the sale.
Although I do kind of like the idea of PWCC staff roving around the country, raiding estate sales and Ohio attics looking for the next big find...

Personally, I agree that the quality of cards offered via PWCC is high. Over the last year, though, the avidity with which folks seem to be bidding on every single PWCC item is noticeable. It's been enough to discourage me from buying as much with PWCC. I'm spending far less with them now than I ever would have imagined prior. I also thought the 'HE' designation was gimmicky enough when it came out, and so now with the 3 new designations it's gone from gimmicky to mildly annoying to me. Just my two-and-a-half cents


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Old 05-11-2019, 08:26 PM
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I like the positivity, Martin. I would make the point that it's the Consignors who choose to bring these cards to market, however, through PWCC. These are cards that are already "in the hobby", with PWCC just acting as a conduit for the sale.
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Thanks Jason. In this scenario I like the old saying “don’t hate the player, hate the game”. If these consigners would just post on net54 “fst” (thanks Frank) I wouldn’t lose sleep with PWCC guilt.
But honestly I like PWCC.
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Thanks Jason. In this scenario I like the old saying “don’t hate the player, hate the game”. If these consigners would just post on net54 “fst” (thanks Frank) I wouldn’t lose sleep with PWCC guilt.
But honestly I like PWCC.
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I followed the discussion on all the usual platforms. It appears PWCC fully acknowledged the potential changes that card has gone through. Not sure if the buyer knows anything with all the exposure and talk. Will be interesting to see if they ever come forward. Otherwise the card stays in PC until the next episode.

As a collector I stay in my lane. But I’m experienced enough to realize this is bigger than social media exposure and pressure to do the right thing by PWCC. To me the end game is with PSA. They will forever be liable for every single graded card out in circulation. It is the nature of their business right? The big question is will PSA do the right thing? I am almost willing to bet my bottom dollar if the new owner lawyered up they could bring a good case against PSA’s grade guarantee policy and come out with some 💵
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I'm sure all blind collectors appreciate PWCC's labeling. Perhaps they can expand the service to dating apps.
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Obviously anyone could sell any card at any time. My point is that PWCC consistently brings nice cards to the hobby. It’s quite frequent actually.

Yes, often the same card after being altered or so bounced back and forth from probstein, ad nauseum
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If the front and back look like an “8”, why is it only graded a “2.5”?
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This sure sounds like aNother paid announcement by Pwcc???
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Martin I see you joined relatively recently. The cynical attitude some of us have towards PWCC has many years of context with which you may not be familiar unless you've been reading the site that long.
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Thank God for Pwcc...If it weren’t for them there would be no nice cards in this world.
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Martin I see you joined relatively recently. The cynical attitude some of us have towards PWCC has many years of context with which you may not be familiar unless you've been reading the site that long.
Thanks Peter. I always respect the opinions of everyone. Like mentioned already I wanted to say something positive here. For what I assume is most likely majority middle aged veteran collectors here on Net54 I’m surprised by the “Twitter” like divisive attitude that you see with modern social culture. I can host a TedTalk Net54 episode out of the drama here
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So why is it only a 2.5?
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So why is it only a 2.5?
Scocs, that is the beauty of “buying the card and not the holder”.
Sometimes there are anomalies that none of us can decipher. In fact i’d pay good money to have a PSA grader sit down with me and explain these scenarios.
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So why is it only a 2.5?
A light surface wrinkle. PSA is going nuts downgrading due to any slight imperfections these days.
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Thanks Peter. I always respect the opinions of everyone. Like mentioned already I wanted to say something positive here. For what I assume is most likely majority middle aged veteran collectors here on Net54 I’m surprised by the “Twitter” like divisive attitude that you see with modern social culture. I can host a TedTalk Net54 episode out of the drama here
PWCC is a very divisive subject, no question. I don't find the forum in general particularly divisive but I guess as a lawyer my tolerance is pretty high and sensitivity low.
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I think Frank brings up the median age to middle age on the boards otherwise we are all youngins'.

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I was the underbidder on that card. It is simply as nice of a Rube as you will find. Very high eye appeal. Very nice pickup!
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I can now confirm that the exceptional sticker on the OP’s card more than doubles the PWCC market value. I recently purchased a similar T206 Waddell Portrait in a PSA 3.5 holder for a little more than half of the exceptionally stickered card.

I guess I’m the fool, as I don’t have a sticker to admire. Oh well, live and learn.
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I can now confirm that the exceptional sticker on the OP’s card more than doubles the PWCC market value. I recently purchased a similar T206 Waddell Portrait in a PSA 3.5 holder for a little more than half of the exceptionally stickered card.

I guess I’m the fool, as I don’t have a sticker to admire. Oh well, live and learn.
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