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Old 04-04-2019, 09:42 PM
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An eBay auction recently closed offering an early 1960s complete set of American League mini-pennants. See: https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-MINT-1....m43663.l10137

Perhaps one of you won it?

I'm curious about the manufacturer, as I see these minis individually all the time. The same company also sold a similar set featuring National League teams.

I will post a photo from this listing and a separate one featuring the original card headers. Does anyone recognize the manufacturer? There appears to be a name or logo in the upper left corner of the card header, above the word "Colorful" but neither I nor the seller could make it out.
Rob: I believe these were the first Hanco pennants we identified as being made for a professional sports team. They made an AL and NL set of minis around 1962. The other pennants we found of theirs were all souvenir ones.

Your New York Football Giants pennant is the first football pennant of theirs I've seen.

It's always possible they had been making sports pennants prior to the 1960s--but, not labeling them with a mark??

Suffice it to say I have not found much info on HANCO. They were located in New York according to their mark. That's where my last research trail ran dry.

Today I found a Hanco Art & Novelty, Inc. in the New York state corporate directory. They first incorporated in 1980; but, that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't exist before then, as many businesses don't immediately choose to incorporate. It was dissolved in 1991. This has to be them.

No plans to write a piece on them at Pennant Fever, as of yet; but, I'd consider it if I learned that they had made more sports pennants during their existence.
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Old 04-07-2019, 02:29 PM
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Just added this to my Lakers collection. The felt is soft and all of the yellow felt in the pennant is raised but not stitched on. It is also blue and gold instead of purple and gold. Was this probably made in the late 60's?
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Just added this to my Lakers collection. The felt is soft and all of the yellow felt in the pennant is raised but not stitched on. It is also blue and gold instead of purple and gold. Was this probably made in the late 60's?
Yep, late 60s. Nice pick-up.
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Can’t read the ruler. 29-30” or more like 24-25”?
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It's about 26 1/2 inches long excluding its tassels.
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Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Please don’t take my word as gospel, but I don’t like it as 1930s.
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Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I'm no baseball pennant expert but I didn't like the stitching on the spine. I've seen a lot of repros with stitching like that. Plus, that's very white for 80+ years old.
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Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
That is a fantasy piece. Ebbets Field Flannel made pennants based off of 1937 BF3 mini pennant designs. Red Ball never made minor league full sized premium pennants. They either made these in the late 80s or early 90s.
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Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I have no opinion on the authenticity of this pennant. But, I did want to address your question about the felt letters/graphics and the way some manufacturers affixed these to the body of the pennant. You are correct that most manufacturers would sew the letters on. This was commonplace through the 1920s and 30s until screened/painted designs became the norm.

BUT, there was at least one manufacturer that glued the letters to the body. If you're able to examine one of these pennants in person, it'll be fairly obvious that the letters are felt; but, on the reverse, there'll be no stitching outlining the spot where each letter sits.

I suspect this was done to lower production costs. Running a sewing machine takes time and and an experienced operator. Glue ... not so much.

I don't think this production method ever really caught on. For one, glue tends to crack when a pennant is waved back and forth. It also breaks down with time. It had to be cheaper to just screen print the lettering and be done with it.
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Actually ... more like mid-1960s, before they moved into the Forum.
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