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04-04-2019, 06:14 PM
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Yes, it's pretty depressing.
On a related note, I wonder how the future generations will view art? Will paintings and sculptures go by the wayside as well? Graffiti is now considered an art form, so I guess Rembrandt, Van Gogh and even Kreindler (some day) will be turning in their graves! 
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04-04-2019, 06:32 PM
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There will always be a sustainable market for valuable collectibles. Even within the sports card trading community generations go through phases as they mature into collecting.
Kids still collect, Panini, Donruss, UD, Topps are fighting over licensing rights. They havent gone bankrupt yet. Today's craze for modern basketball inserts will gravitate to those collectors going after vintage. It only gets deeper from there and they all eventually end up on Net54 by the time they are in their 40's and older owning the RARE stuff...  I've lived through the stages of this thing called collecting in the last 20 years. I also started with 80's baseball and basketball cards when I was a kid. Now i'm hooked on T206 portraits. As long as there are good paying jobs and sustainable economics our vintage stuff will stay desirable. It's a gateway to Net54 i'm telling you..
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04-04-2019, 06:38 PM
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Well, as George Harrison sang many years ago, all things must pass. But hard to predict when when and how. A lot has changed since Shakespeare's time, yet kids still read his books in college and people still find going to his plays tremendously rewarding. Ditto fine art and much of what Sotherbys sells. Yeah, some wacky modern art demands great prices, but all these centuries later people still buy Picassos and Rembrandts. I think there will be a market for what we collect for many many years, though clearly things will fall in and out of favor. Maybe someday the mania we see today for Jackie Robinson turns into hysteria for Ken Griffey cards. Or people are going nuts for Judge cards. Impossible to predict.
I always think how Elvis Presley was the biggest celebrity on the planet when I was a teen. Today my kids would be hard pressed to name 2 of his songs. Do people go to Graceland anymore? I don't know. I doubt there are lines down the block. Yet, people still collect Beatles stuff big time. Impossible to predict. Last edited by Snapolit1; 04-04-2019 at 06:39 PM.
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04-04-2019, 07:05 PM
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I remember buying a lot of tickets at a chantilly show that came from lesser but still significant games...like the retiring of Wilt's jersey at Philly and a few others. The guy had been to all the games himself. I had a friend of mine come by and say,"What are you buying?" and I told him pieces of this guy's life at fifty cents a throw.
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04-04-2019, 08:11 PM
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I don’t know if anyone has noticed but Topps has been venturing into this field for a few years with Topps Bunt digital cards. A couple of years ago these were selling for really nice money. I remember seeing Mike Trout digital autograph cards that were selling for more than real autograph cards. I’m not sure how the demand has been for these lately but I personally have no interest when I can buy an actual card.
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04-04-2019, 10:22 PM
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I have been wondering about this myself, as I collect tickets from Kris Bryant homerun games. Some teams just don't have tickets, making it impossible pretty much to collect all of them, but I think that most season ticket holders still get actual tickets, don't they? I've had Pacers season tickets for a decade and have all the ticket books but use the digital app to actually attend. I bet a lot of people do the same, so maybe the tickets just become much more scarce.
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04-05-2019, 05:20 AM
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04-05-2019, 08:57 AM
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My Red Sox season tickets didn't even have a paper ticket option this year - it is all electronic. Though I did buy some extra tickets for a few games, and those are paper tickets.
Boston Celtics do still offer paper tickets for the season ticket accounts, though they are offering promos to cut over to electronic. I do still enjoy my paper tickets for sure though!
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04-05-2019, 09:26 AM
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I can't say that any sports teams do the same, but I had an interesting ticket experience last night.
I got a ticket online to see the Experience Hendrix show, and of course got an email to print out. But my wife selected will call rather than printing out a ticket. Get to the box office, totally different entrance. Hand over my printout expecting them to simply verify it and send me in. They verified, then handed me a paper ticket, which was scanned before entry by the guy standing maybe 5 ft away. I'll have to try it the next time we buy Red Sox tickets.
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04-05-2019, 04:04 PM
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04-05-2019, 06:01 PM
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Supply is and will be definitely lower than in the past for real tickets. Most fans walking thru the gates now I notice either have a paper read out or use a scan on their phone etc. Real tickets for significant games may be in low supply.
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04-05-2019, 10:41 PM
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While many of the teams are getting out of the physical season ticket business there is still, and probably will always be, the box office ticket. If you know a milestone is imminent you can still buy tickets at the box office. The problem lies with events that are random, like no hitters and such. There will probably still be people who went to the game at the last minute and bought a hard ticket at the box office, however this will mean that demand will be much higher than supply so expect to pay!
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04-07-2019, 09:49 AM
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I recall attending Robin Yount's 3000th hit game, and buying a half dozen or so extra tickets from the box office after he got the hit. I've managed to save just about all of my stubs from games I've attended except for my earliest childhood games, unfortunately. This year I attended my first sporting event without a paper ticket, a Tampa Bay Lightning hockey game in March. The only way to get an actual stub is buying a ticket, day of game, from the arena. I believe STH's have the option of having tickets printed. I don't like electronic phone tickets. Tomorrow I start my season of sitting in the Wrigley bleachers, forced to using electronic phone tickets for the first time in baseball. In the event of something historic, I will not have an official ticket stub and that stinks. ...also when I asked to buy a hockey program at Amelie Arena in Tampa, I was told they no longer print them, all the player information is on their team app....   
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04-05-2019, 11:54 AM
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Was just having a bad day and suspecting gloom and doom. Earlier in the week, we hosted a party including about a dozen "Millenials"... All college educated (mostly expensive private schools). The conversation somehow turned to Bob Hope entertaining the troops during Viet Nam, and they all had a blank look on their faces. Then I asked who in the room knew who Bob Hope was, and it was just an uncomfortable silence. Finally one of the girls said I KNOW... He operates the airport in Palm Springs! Rather than correcting her (pointlessly) I replied.... That's right! Just like John Wayne runs the Orange County Airport. She was very pleased with herself, so why fight it?
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04-05-2019, 03:20 PM
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As a long time ticket collector of attended games,
I was pleased when my son and I were able to use his real cardboard tickets to the Yankee game Wednesday. He had four with different players depicted. I chose the Aaron Judge. I score every game I have ever attended (I'm 88 years old) and try to keep the ticket stub. Of course, in recent years, I have had to do with printed tickets on paper which is especially disappointing at playoff and world series games.
I recently won at the recent REA auction a season ticket booklet from the Philadelphia 1896 season with several unused tickets. Of interest to me because Sam Thompson was on the 1896 Philadelphia roster, but also as an example of 19th century ticket styles which like scorebooks have evolved dramatically over the years. When I started out in 1938 (I still have the scorebook) I could buy a Briggs Stadium scorecard for 5 cents which takes up little space. Last Wednesday, a scorebook at Yankee Stadium cost ten dollars and takes up about 1/4 inch on my shelf. The Yankee Yearbook is now twenty dollars, even heavier, and I try to avoid them, but my six year old granddaughter begged me with tears in her eyes to "bring one home for me."
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04-05-2019, 04:02 PM
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04-11-2019, 10:23 AM
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A comedian who's been dead for 15 years and not relevant since before we were born, i understand not knowing about. Carolina Panthers season ticket holders still get em, and they tend to have a nice picture collage spread across them.
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04-11-2019, 11:25 AM
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04-11-2019, 12:16 PM
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serenity now....insanity later!
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04-11-2019, 09:48 PM
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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana
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04-14-2019, 12:37 AM
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I'm a Mets season ticket holder. I got my first smartphone six months ago, and this is the first year I'd be using the current technology to attend games.
I was looking forward to getting a paper "receipt," because from a collecting standpoint those would be the only true tickets from milestone games. Season tickets are printed at the same time before the season starts, and even box office style tickets can be printed ahead of time. And print-at-home tickets... well, I can print 'em to PDF instead of to paper. I still have the PDF files of all my print-at-home tickets from 2017 to date, so, for example, I can still print out hardcopies of the print-at-home ticket from the game where I became Thumbs Down Guy in case I want to sell them as something to sign. Anyway, getting back to reality, when I went to my first Mets game this year I was disappointed to find that they weren't giving paper "receipts." Collecting aside, what happens if there's a problem with your phone, and an issue regarding your seat, or perhaps club access, arises?
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