T206 Honus Wagner - Not For Sale

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Damn it's sure annoying when potential buyers ask for more information. I empathize.

I highly doubt any of those asking for more pictures in the thread are actually interested in buying this card. If I was in the market for a 600 or 700k altered Wagner I would have contacted the seller directly and asked for better scans. And if I were selling this I also would not waste my time answering the trolls.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I highly doubt any of those asking for more pictures in the thread are actually interested in buying this card. If I was in the market for a 600 or 700k altered Wagner I would have contacted the seller directly and asked for better scans. And if I were selling this I also would not waste my time answering the trolls.

True, but if you post that card in that manner in this forum, the response he got was not at all surprising.

[barrysloate]

This is a card that would do great in an auction, but selling it on BST might not be the right fit. But you never know.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I highly doubt any of those asking for more pictures in the thread are actually interested in buying this card. If I was in the market for a 600 or 700k altered Wagner I would have contacted the seller directly and asked for better scans. And if I were selling this I also would not waste my time answering the trolls.

I would hope that if you were in the market for a Wagner you would have bought an Altered one for 420K or an actual PSA 2 for 600k.

[GottaHaveRockandRoll]

Originally Posted by rats60

I would hope that if you were in the market for a Wagner you would have bought an Altered one for 420K or an actual PSA 2 for 600k.

PSA 2 is worth more like 850k+ now.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by GottaHaveRockandRoll

PSA 2 is worth more like 850k+ now.

It's back to being a PSA 2 now? I thought it was a 4.

[GottaHaveRockandRoll]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

It's back to being a PSA 2 now? I thought it was a 4.

The card is not for sale I apologize

[ClementeFanOh]

The ONLY way that card gets a 3 or 3.5 is if Mr. Magoo is the grader- careful, your credibility is in question....

[Luke]

Good luck with the sale, but it doesn't help your credibility to tell people that card would grade a 3 or 4. You may just not know that you're wrong, but everyone else on the forum knows you are. If you haven't sent any cards in to PSA in a few years and looked at the grades you received, it's probably best not to make any claims about what grade this card would get.

There's exactly 0.00% chance this card could get a 2.5 or better with those corners, assuming there was no alteration. I would take the the under on 1.75 personally.

It's a great card. No reason to lie or exaggerate to try and make it seem like more than it is.

Edited to add that I probably went a little harder than I needed to in the above post. The OP sent me a PM and said he was just comparing his card to another PSA 2 and his card looked better. That is certainly possible. This card could not get above a "2" because of the corners, but it's still a nice looking card. I have a bunch of PSA 2s with rounded corners that look great.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

The ONLY way that card gets a 3 or 3.5 is if Mr. Magoo is the grader- careful, your credibility is in question....

Zero is overstating the chance that card, if unaltered, would 3, IMO.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by GottaHaveRockandRoll

I just said a PSA 2 is worth 850k+ not 600k. The card would be graded a PSA 3 or 3.5 at least

What? I never commented on what you believe the monetary value of any particular grade would be, nor am I contesting that...but ok.

This is all over the place. In the early posts we are told the card sans the altering would be a 2. Then in the middle at some point your tune changed to it being a 4. And just now you are at “3 or 3.5 at least.”???

All very confusing.



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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

What? I never commented on what you believe the monetary value of any particular grade would be, nor am I contesting that...but ok.

This is all over the place. In the early posts we are told the card sans the altering would be a 2. Then in the middle at some point your tune changed to it being a 4. And just now you are at “3 or 3.5 at least.”???

All very confusing.



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As one of my favorite law school profs used to say, it's not confusing, it's CONFUSED.

[dictoresno]

just so you know, the OP of this thread raised some eyebrows on blowout forums attempting to sell something shady, and then was PMing people claiming to be a consignor under the same name as their username and soliciting people to sell their cards through him. gotta dig up the thread now.

[Jewish-collector]

There's been a few legit T206 Wagners on this B/S/T for sale over the years.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by GottaHaveRockandRoll

PSA 2 is worth more like 850k+ now.

I am quite sure that there would be a wide range in what a psa 2 might sell for. A deal centered card that looked like a 4 or 5 but has a barely noticeable flaw might go for a mil or more. A beat up card that looked like it belonged in a 1 holder maybe 500 or 600k. A card that looks like it belongs in the 2 holder maybe 800 or 850. These are just made up estimates but I would expect the variance to be at least that if not much more.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I highly doubt any of those asking for more pictures in the thread are actually interested in buying this card. If I was in the market for a 600 or 700k altered Wagner I would have contacted the seller directly and asked for better scans. And if I were selling this I also would not waste my time answering the trolls.

You are or were in sales, right? Did you just blow off people you didn't think were serious buyers or were you respectful to everyone?

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You are or were in sales, right? Did you just blow off people you didn't think were serious buyers or were you respectful to everyone?

Respectful yes, but if someone making say 40k a year wants to go test drive a $500k Ferrari or Rolls Royce I don't think the response will be sure let me get the keys.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Respectful yes, but if someone making say 40k a year wants to go test drive a $500k Ferrari or Rolls Royce I don't think the response will be sure let me get the keys.

It's a little easier to post a picture or answer a question than to take someone out for a test drive though.