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![]() At least some of us grew up in the 50s with 16 major league teams in two leagues. Now we have 30.
Fourteen teams have been added and others have moved, but were those changes the best? Lets take a look. The basis for the realignment presented is based on city populations, not metropolitan populations. Either would work and the results would be different, but both could be criticized. The first step is seeing what a 16 team league would look like today. The American League would be New York Yankees* Chicago White Sox* Toronto Blue Jays Houston Astros Seattle Mariners Boston Red Sox* Detroit Tigers* Washington Nationals (or perhaps Americans-Senators) The National League would be New York Mets Philadelphia Phillies* Colorado Rockies Los Angeles Dodgers** Arizona Diamondbacks San Francisco Giants** San Diego Padres Chicago Cubs* *Seven of the 50s 16 teams to survive **Two of the original 16 that only moved Now the next steps is adding seven teams to each league based on population To the American League the following could be added Jacksonville Suns Columbus Clippers Indianapolis Indians Charlotte Knights Nashville Sounds Memphis Redbirds Dallas Roughriders To the National League the following could be added Oklahoma City Dodger Premies Fort Worth Cats Austin Rock Hounds El Paso Chihuahuas San Antonio Missions San Jose Giant Babies Portland Pickles That leaves us with fourteen major league teams that could be demoted to triple A Baltimore Orioles* Milwaukee Brewers Kansas City Royals Atlanta Braves* Miami Marlins Minnesota Twins "Arlington Rangers" Cleveland Indians* Anaheim Angels St. Louis Cardinals* Pittsburgh Pirates* Cincinnati Reds* Tampa Bay (St. Petersburg) Rays Las Vegas Athletics*** *6 of the original 16 teams that do not survive *** one team that moved three times from Philly to KC to Oakland to Las Vegas Three teams on the list from the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, 2 major and one minor. As a metropolitan area two teams is not unreasonable. The Cleveland Indians could be a farm team of Indianapolis. Lots of major league baseball in Texas with a total of 6 teams I can't wait for a World Series between the Sounds and the Pickles. ![]() How about you? This is all fantasy, the criteria are quite arbitrary, and I will not defend any of the above.
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RAUCOUS SPORTS CARD FORUM MEMBER AND MONSTER FATHER. GOOD FOR THE HOBBY AND THE FORUM WITH A VAULT IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION FILLED WITH WORTHLESS NON-FUNGIBLES 274/1000 Monster Number Last edited by frankbmd; 01-05-2019 at 03:54 PM. |
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Frank,
Do you believe the talent is better now or watered down due to the number of teams? The 25 man roster would comprise 400 total players in 1955 to 750 current 2019. It drives me nuts how many batters swing and miss or can't hit to the opposite field. And baseball actually considers banning the shift! Just hit to the opposite side of the field and the shift goes away. Yes I know that I sound like an old man. You kids stay off my lawn!
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So you're just taking the city population? Why??
Cleveland's county and region populations are notably larger than Indianapolis'. |
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Demoting the longest continually active team sports franchise in history?
You are out of your mind, Frank!
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I also said that I wasn't going to defend any of the above. ![]() I'm not demoting anyone, just going where the evidence (numbers) take me.
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RAUCOUS SPORTS CARD FORUM MEMBER AND MONSTER FATHER. GOOD FOR THE HOBBY AND THE FORUM WITH A VAULT IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION FILLED WITH WORTHLESS NON-FUNGIBLES 274/1000 Monster Number Last edited by frankbmd; 01-05-2019 at 05:49 PM. |
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1 New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA MSA 20,320,876 19,567,410 +3.85% New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA MSA 13,353,907 12,828,837 +4.09% Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA CSA 3 Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI MSA 9,533,040 9,461,105 +0.76% Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI CSA 4 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA 7,399,662 6,426,214 +15.15% Dallas-Fort Worth, TX-OK CSA 5 Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX MSA 6,892,427 5,920,416 +16.42% Houston-The Woodlands, TX CSA 6 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA 6,216,589 5,636,232 +10.30% Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA CSA 7 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach, FL MSA 6,158,824 5,564,635 +10.68% Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Port St. Lucie, FL CSA 8 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA 6,096,120 5,965,343 +2.19% Philadelphia-Reading-Camden, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA 9 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell, GA MSA 5,884,736 5,286,728 +11.31% Atlanta-Athens-Sandy Springs, GA CSA 10 Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH MSA 4,836,531 4,552,402 +6.24% Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH-CT CSA 11 Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ MSA 4,737,270 4,192,887 +12.98% 12 San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, CA MSA 4,727,357 4,335,391 +9.04% San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA 13 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA 4,580,670 4,224,851 +8.42% Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA CSA 14 Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI MSA 4,313,002 4,296,250 +0.39% Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor, MI CSA 15 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA MSA 3,867,046 3,439,809 +12.42% Seattle-Tacoma, WA CSA 16 Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI MSA 3,600,618 3,348,859 +7.52% Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN-WI CSA 17 San Diego-Carlsbad, CA MSA 3,337,685 3,095,313 +7.83% 18 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA 3,091,399 2,783,243 +11.07% 19 Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO MSA 2,888,227 2,543,482 +13.55% Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO MSA 20 Baltimore-Columbia-Towson, MD MSA 2,808,175 2,710,489 +3.60% Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA CSA 21 St. Louis, MO-IL MSA 2,807,338 2,787,701 +0.70% St. Louis-St. Charles-Farmington, MO-IL CSA 22 Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia, NC-SC MSA 2,525,305 2,217,012 +13.91% Charlotte-Concord, NC-SC CSA 23 Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL MSA 2,509,831 2,134,411 +17.59% Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach, FL CSA 24 San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX MSA 2,473,974 2,142,508 +15.47% 25 Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA MSA 2,453,168 2,226,009 +10.20% Portland-Vancouver-Salem, OR-WA CSA 26 Pittsburgh, PA MSA 2,333,367 2,356,285 −0.97% Pittsburgh-New Castle-Weirton, PA-OH-WV CSA 27 Sacramento–Roseville–Arden-Arcade, CA MSA 2,324,884 2,149,127 +8.18% Sacramento-Roseville, CA CSA 28 Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV MSA 2,204,079 1,951,269 +12.96% Las Vegas-Henderson, NV-AZ CSA 29 Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN MSA 2,179,082 2,114,580 +3.05% Cincinnati-Wilmington-Maysville, OH-KY-IN CSA 30 Kansas City, MO-KS MSA 2,128,912 2,009,342 +5.95% Kansas City-Overland Park-Kansas City, MO-KS CSA 31 Austin-Round Rock, TX MSA 2,115,827 1,716,289 +23.28% 32 Columbus, OH MSA 2,078,725 1,901,974 +9.29% Columbus-Marion-Zanesville, OH CSA 33 Cleveland-Elyria, OH MSA 2,058,844 2,077,240 −0.89% Cleveland-Akron-Canton, OH CSA 34 Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson, IN MSA 2,028,614 1,887,877 +7.45% Indianapolis-Carmel-Muncie, IN CSA 35 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA 1,998,463 1,836,911 +8.79% San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA 36 Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro–Franklin, TN MSA 1,903,045 1,670,890 +13.89% Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro, TN CSA 37 Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC MSA 1,725,246 1,676,822 +2.89% Virginia Beach-Norfolk, VA-NC CSA 38 Providence-Warwick, RI-MA MSA 1,621,122 1,600,852 +1.27% Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH-CT CSA 39 Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI MSA 1,576,236 1,555,908 +1.31% Milwaukee-Racine-Waukesha, WI CSA So Milwaukee is the current smallest market team. Cleveland, Cincinnati, Kansas City and now Las Vegas would also be out, if you allot two teams for NYC, LA, CHI and Dallas. Without a second team in Dallas, Sacramento would be added. Replacement teams for the five small market teams above would be in Riverside, Charlotte, San Antonio, Orlando and Portland.
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San Jose would need to be in the American League, then you could have a World Series between the Giants and the Giants' Babies.
Also, El Paso and Austin need to be in opposite leagues, enabling a World Series between the Hounds and the Chihuahuas. Steve
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