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Old 12-31-2018, 01:12 PM
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Sean, my point is that it’s rarity, not value, that makes the Big 4, the Big 4.

Side question, would you rather have a Demmitt/O’Hara in a 5-6, or a green Cobb in a 5-6. I think it’s a close call (would rather have the green Cobb in a 4 or less)

Johnny, I get it with the Demmitt/O’Hara - I never seen the hoopla with these two, as you are correct that they are not rare among PB backs. In fact, I have never owned either. That said, whenever a real pretty 5+ comes up for sale (and maybe a smokin and clean 4), I often think long and hard about pulling the trigger.

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Old 12-31-2018, 01:20 PM
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whenever a real pretty 5+ comes up for sale (and maybe a smokin and clean 4), I often think long and hard about pulling the trigger.
Ryan, here's a 3.5 in case you want to settle:


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Old 12-31-2018, 01:26 PM
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Michael, my bad - You and Johnny’s handle are very similar and can be easily confused at 10:20pm in Tel Aviv on New Years Eve! You can call me Ronnie for 2019.

Sean, that’s a good looking card, but it’s the 5’s that catch my eye. And BTW, I always liked the Demmitt over the O’Hara
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Ronnie, I mean Ryan, happy new year!
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Old 12-31-2018, 02:28 PM
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A lot of collectors point to the demand side being more important than the supply side, aka rarity. The demand for the green Cobb probably is higher than the demand for the other biggies. What T206's would you consider of higher overall demand than the green Cobb?
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Michael, my bad - You and Johnny’s handle are very similar and can be easily confused at 10:20pm in Tel Aviv on New Years Eve!
Are you kidding? You're in Tel Aviv and you're wasting time talking with us?

Happy New Year!
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I think the green cobb has always been one...if not the most coveted non big 4 t206 as long as I've been collecting. Set collectors need the st louis variations which are more limited in # than green cobbs by a long shot. But I think the % of set collectors who need these pales in comparison to the # of people who want green t206. Not sure how much and how quickly the green cobb will continue to escalate...this past year has been quite a ride for the green cobby.
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Default all great input

I remember being at a baseball card show in the early 80's and every dealer talking up the green cobb
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Sean, my point is that it’s rarity, not value, that makes the Big 4, the Big 4.

Side question, would you rather have a Demmitt/O’Hara in a 5-6, or a green Cobb in a 5-6. I think it’s a close call (would rather have the green Cobb in a 4 or less)

Johnny, I get it with the Demmitt/O’Hara - I never seen the hoopla with these two, as you are correct that they are not rare among PB backs. In fact, I have never owned either. That said, whenever a real pretty 5+ comes up for sale (and maybe a smokin and clean 4), I often think long and hard about pulling the trigger.
There are enough Magie cards that I wouldn’t say they are rare. 15 to 20 get sold a year. Didn’t Robert Edward Auctions auction off three of them in the same auction followed by PWCC two of them plus one straight listed on ebay?

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I like the idea for discussion's sake, but don't think there can be a "Big 5" at this point. Wagner, Plank, Magie, Doyle, Demmitt, O'Hara have been established long ago as the keys that get eliminated from "complete" sets first due to their rarity. The green Cobb is just a very sought after card in the hobby and is collected by many people that aren't collecting T206s. Those people don't need a Magie. The demand is much lower for Plank, Magie, Doyle, etc. within the hobby in general. So comparing the prices of Demmitt with Cobb is apples to oranges. If the demand for Demmit was the same a green Cobb it would be way more expensive than a green Cobb is.
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Hi Andy, FWIW- "Complete" set is considered 520 (minus the big 4)...Demmitt & O'Hara are part of the "near set".

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Hi Andy, FWIW- "Complete" set is considered 520 (minus the big 4)...Demmitt & O'Hara are part of the "near set".
Hi Michael. Yes, but Demmitt & O'Hara are the next two to go when someone wants to make a "do-able" set (can we call it that?) at 518 which I've seen many times. The green Cobb isn't the one excluded from the "set". I guess I could've been more specific.
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I would love to have a Doyle and Wagner. I simply can not afford them due to price so I would say price is what dictates the lack of those cards being included in most peoples sets. I can afford a Magie and a Plank but question the cost to have them. They are simply to expensive to liquidate. You can not simply put it on Ebay for sale and get a buyer that easily. How many people have 30 thousand dollars of liquid assets for a single piece of paper with a photo printed on it.

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